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Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:27 PM Nov 2012

We are second class citizens of DU. We are NOT to use The Main Lobby.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: The post reads accurately to me. The alerter kinda fits the OP too.
There is a reason the gungeon is in the basement, under the parking lot. Too bad they still have to enter and exit through the main lobby.

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We are second class citizens of DU. We are NOT to use The Main Lobby. (Original Post) Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 OP
Too bad you can't issue an alert on the Juror #1. ;-) Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #1
Actually, there is an alert link with the responses. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #3
How does that work? oneshooter Nov 2012 #43
Don't know, never tried it. I don't think rrneck Nov 2012 #45
Need a link ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #2
Ride, ride, ride, let it ride Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #4
This is going to be a very close election ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #12
Well, I guess if they don't like me coming in the front door rrneck Nov 2012 #5
Hear Hear!!!! virginia mountainman Nov 2012 #9
Anyone that has a problem with me or anyone else using the front door... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #29
And a ladder rrneck Nov 2012 #31
And the ass... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #32
Rabid gun controllers are odd ducks former-republican Nov 2012 #6
indeed and, while I appreciate the vote to Leave It Alone, I was flabbergasted by the comment. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #7
ToS was checked too Kali Nov 2012 #8
what on earth could TA have posted that could gejohnston Nov 2012 #10
She had a hide in this thread: petronius Nov 2012 #11
the things that 2Aers are called and are left to stand compared to what I said is Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #13
no comment - Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #14
Odd....since we're the most progressive of all the groups... ileus Nov 2012 #15
You are 100% correct Berserker Nov 2012 #16
"And if you go to another forum that supports RKBA you are a Liberal..." Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #36
****** Regarding that post. I meant it sincerely.****** Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #17
So now, Let me make sure I understand the Community Standards of DU -- Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #18
Apparently so. glacierbay Nov 2012 #19
As a black man, I have seen this all my life. To see it at DU is disheartening ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #20
This has gone too far. I understand people's frustration with this group but, to use that phrase Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #21
Can someone please explain for me? Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #22
This post I believe glacierbay Nov 2012 #23
How is that different than "Most gun nuts are criminals"? Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #24
Beats the hell out of me. glacierbay Nov 2012 #25
The difference is My Post got Hidden and the Other One Did not - Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #30
It's EZ: The jury system allows for a huge double standard... Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #35
For Once I am Going to Rec my own Thread (toot my own horn) and send this to Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #26
Recced as well. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #27
Thank You. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #28
Recced as well. glacierbay Nov 2012 #33
thanks Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #34
Really what you shouldn't do is post Jonah Goldberg rw nuttery. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #37
go talk to Holden and who are you to say that I myself am not of the Jewish persuasion. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #38
You do realize that if one posts here it doesn't matter which side they post - for or against -- Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #39
I thought Goldburg's thesis was gejohnston Nov 2012 #40
Interestingly enough... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #41
I like Bellamy's version better gejohnston Nov 2012 #42
Equality, yes. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #44
K&R n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #46
K&R n/t friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #47

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
45. Don't know, never tried it. I don't think
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:32 PM
Nov 2012

it goes to a jury though. I think it goes straight to admin.

Glaug-Eldare

(1,089 posts)
4. Ride, ride, ride, let it ride
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:40 PM
Nov 2012

Lots of groups here, and this one tends to go against the party line. I don't blame the more orthodox DUers who see us as a nuisance. Inshallah, we'll change the party line itself, by and by.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
12. This is going to be a very close election ...
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:50 AM
Nov 2012

... if (heaven forbid) Obama loses this election ... gun control will go so far down the Democratic agenda priority that any Democrat who brings it up is going to be treated like Fred Phelps.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
5. Well, I guess if they don't like me coming in the front door
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:45 PM
Nov 2012

they need to get back to whatever bubble they fell out of. I come and go where I goddamn well please.

Fuck. That. Attitude.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
29. Anyone that has a problem with me or anyone else using the front door...
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:19 PM
Nov 2012

...will be needing a new f***ing door.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
6. Rabid gun controllers are odd ducks
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:55 PM
Nov 2012

They are the most irrational and emotional people you will have the displeasures of talking to.

The more you destroy their arguments with facts the more emotional and illogical they become.


Yes they are odd ducks.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
13. the things that 2Aers are called and are left to stand compared to what I said is
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:45 AM
Nov 2012

Beyond the Pale. I am getting Sick Of It,

The Double Standard in this Group is horrendous.

 

Berserker

(3,419 posts)
16. You are 100% correct
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:54 AM
Nov 2012

It's a rather perplexing situation. If a person is a Democrat and supports the RKBA the left thinks your a secret right wing tea bagger posting on a Democratic site like I have been accused of lately. And if you go to another forum that supports RKBA you are a Liberal, Socialist Commie piece of shit that votes to ban assault weapons.

 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
36. "And if you go to another forum that supports RKBA you are a Liberal..."
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 03:25 PM
Nov 2012

Ain't that the truth?

I frequent other gun forums but I never bring up politics there.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
17. ****** Regarding that post. I meant it sincerely.******
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:06 AM
Nov 2012

Control Freaks and Power Struggles in Relationships
ADHD, Chronic Rage, OCD, Passive -Aggressive and 12-Step Programs
Marilisa Sachteleben, Yahoo! Contributor Network
Jul 30, 2009

Relationships like machines, require balance. Power struggles and control issues indicate a lack of balance in a relationship. Power struggles and control issues stem from one or both partners having poorly developed self-control. Over-controlling results from lack of self-control. Control freaks, usually unbeknownst to themselves, attempt to control other people when they feel out of control of themselves. Those that they attempt to control may fight back, realizing that the control freak is trampling on their boundaries. Hence it may appear that a power struggle is ensuing.
However, this is not a true power struggle. A true power struggle is when two persons wrestle over control of a neutral, separate issue, situation or person.Those who are attempting to avoid being controlled by the control freak are simply asserting their boundaries. This is healthy behavior. But it doesn't usually look very pretty. No matter how calmly boundaries are enforced the control freak doesn't like it. She/He rages, sulks, hits below the belt, tries to intimidate and/or shame her partner back into her web of control. She's not in control of herself. She/He feels it and panics. She instinctively grasps for something or someone external control. (in this instance the alert button) Why?

Let's look at control freaks from a developmental perspective. Self-control is the basis for real control or power. Control freaks lack true self-control. There are three types of control freaks. There is your garden variety control freak. He's not in charge of his emotions so he wants control of yours.He may exhibit addictive behaviors, chronic outbursts of rage, tantrums (yes adults can throw tantrums), storms of weeping, Attention Deficit with Hyperactive Disorder (ADHD) behaviors, giddy roller-coaster emotions. The ADHD control freak was typically over-controlled as a kid. He was not given room to develop his own self-control. He was constantly under a watchful, critical, distrusting parental eye.

Control freaks may manifest control issues by appearing rigid or ultra-controlled. Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a sign of lack of self-control. By rigidly managing minuscule details, down to the letter, they are attempting to control the more important issues: their emotions and actions. They can not survive without out punctilious order and woe to you if you are a bit of a slob. These people were often under-controlled as children. They now need rigidity for comfort and security. These children may have felt a sense of endangerment, betrayal or abandonment as children. Children of substance abusers and addictive personalities develop OCD issues, too.

more at link:
http://voices.yahoo.com/control-freaks-power-struggles-relationships-3890082.html

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
18. So now, Let me make sure I understand the Community Standards of DU --
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:07 AM
Nov 2012

It is A-OK to go into Meta and accuse 2Aers of being Paranoid, Nasty Extremists but,

It is NOT ok to even suggest or imply that Anti2Aers might be OCD.

Have I got this right?

Paranoia is a Mental Disorder and it is OK to say that about 2Aers but,

It is NOT ok to suggest that the other side might also suffer from a Mental Disorder known as OCD.

Have I got that right?

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
19. Apparently so.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:13 AM
Nov 2012

Here's an idea, start a thread in Meta about this, after all, that's what one well known member does when he doesn't get his way.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
21. This has gone too far. I understand people's frustration with this group but, to use that phrase
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:34 AM
Nov 2012

is just Over The Top.

We Are Better Than This.

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
22. Can someone please explain for me?
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:42 AM
Nov 2012

I've been inattentive for a few days, and I am not certain what Tuesday Afternoon is referencing. Can someone clear this up for me?

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
24. How is that different than "Most gun nuts are criminals"?
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:27 PM
Nov 2012

Just another reason to show why the Jury system fails the Gungeon so routinely, and why independent arbitration is more necessary than in other groups.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
30. The difference is My Post got Hidden and the Other One Did not -
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:19 PM
Nov 2012

can you say Double Standard exists and is alive and well on DU.

I, for one, am sick of it and I am not going to take it any more.

fuck the dumb.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
35. It's EZ: The jury system allows for a huge double standard...
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:09 PM
Nov 2012

Punk someone all day, get away with it, get your moral jollies (in meta, I guess), and pop any pro 2A poster for the lamest reason.

I said years ago that the controller/banner would do anything to get this group trashed.

They found it with the inquisitorial jury system.

The Gungeon has been made into a political gang bang where prohibitionists can be excused for their punk actions.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
26. For Once I am Going to Rec my own Thread (toot my own horn) and send this to
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:05 PM
Nov 2012

The Greatest Page.

DU: We Are Better Than This!!!!!

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
37. Really what you shouldn't do is post Jonah Goldberg rw nuttery.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 06:03 PM
Nov 2012

It is in the TOS: don't be a wingnut.

If you do not understand where the "gun control is holocaust enablement" nonsense comes from, your really need to educate yourself. If you don't understand why this is deeply offensive to jews, liberals, progressives, and almost everyone out of this little gun enthusiast bubble, you need to educate yourself.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
38. go talk to Holden and who are you to say that I myself am not of the Jewish persuasion.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 06:09 PM
Nov 2012

As for the ToS let me quote you the Flip Side of That Coin:

Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.

You need to get outside the box, Square.

and btw - since when did you give a shit what goes on here in GC&RKBA?

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
39. You do realize that if one posts here it doesn't matter which side they post - for or against --
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 06:23 PM
Nov 2012

as far as the rest of DU is concerned Both Sides are Second Class Citizens and are NOT to use the Main Lobby.

You understand this, right?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
40. I thought Goldburg's thesis was
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 06:29 PM
Nov 2012

a sterling example of a genetic fallacy, which mostly had more to do with Italian and German governments use mixed economies and Keynesian economics (which we agree is a good thing) and the fact that a few progressives during the Progressive era, embrace of eugenics. Something, I'm sure neither of us support. At least that is what I got from watching the spiel on CSPAN some years ago. I'm not about to give the asshole any royalty money, and my library doesn't have it. Either way, I don't see the connection with this conversation. Maybe I need to read the book.
Since DR could be just as easily referring to the Armenian genocide in Turkey, or any number of genocides. It is not exclusively the Holocaust.
If you really want to mess with some fundie who takes this sort of thing seriously, you could mention that William Jennings Bryan was a creationist and liberal Democrat. The guy who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance was a Baptist minister and a socialist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jennings_Bryan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bellamy

Since fascist is as misused as socialist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

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