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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:18 AM Nov 2012

Concealed

The reputation of the gun and the rhetoric surrounding Texas culture have been intertwined since the state’s inception. Perpetuated by popular culture and the media, the stereotype of the gun-toting Texan remains steadfast in the national consciousness.

There is no state firearm registration, no limit on magazine size or ammunition purchases. Class III weapons, including suppressors, machine guns and short-barreled firearms, are legal. Since the expiration of the federal assault weapons ban, Texas places no restrictions on “assault weapons.” Texas is a “castle doctrine” state, a “stand your ground” state and a “peaceable journey” state.

Texas citizens buy, sell, carry and use firearms. Guns and Texas have a long, deep-set history.

But what is the best way to approach the matter of firearms on a campus full of students?

http://www.thebatt.com/concealed-1.2947825?pagereq=1
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Concealed (Original Post) SecularMotion Nov 2012 OP
Ever consider just doing a daily digest? Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #1
Silencers and sawed off shotguns for the drug racketeer caucus Kolesar Nov 2012 #2
Silencers are a safety issue hack89 Nov 2012 #4
Because we know that without such laws hack89 Nov 2012 #5
Okay everybody, is this a proper posting for... Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #7
As we can see, political failure makes some bitter and angry. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #12
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #9
Carping about reducing noise pollution? Really? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #11
Hi. Straw Man Nov 2012 #13
Fish in barrel has been shot. 2ndAmForComputers Nov 2012 #25
... apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #26
It isn't a problem for the dozens of colleges that already allow concealed carry on campus. N/T GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #3
This OP IS the grand stereotype! Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #6
The article is from Texas A & M college newspaper. N/T GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #8
Ah, the Aggies want some of the credit. I see. nt Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #10
Don't Texans have to go through the same Class III procedure? Union Scribe Nov 2012 #14
Yes, Texas is no diffrent than any other state in the Union. oneshooter Nov 2012 #16
Texas A&M student senate has voted to allow concealed carry on campus. N/T GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #15
Vote? fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #17
Not at A&M. The student senate vote is only advisory. N/T GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #20
Student Government is worthless. n/t Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #23
That's a rather good article for a student paper (for any paper, really), and I'm petronius Nov 2012 #18
Yup...that's my state rl6214 Nov 2012 #19
People over 21 with concealed weapons? Quick, somone loan me some pearls, that I may AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #21
I agree SecularMotion former-republican Nov 2012 #22
Sounds great! Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #24

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. Silencers are a safety issue
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:49 AM
Nov 2012

there is a reason they are mandatory in several European countries.

And silenced rifles are still very loud - they are only truly silent when using special sub-sonic bullets. Hollywood has given many a distorted idea of what silencers can actually do.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
5. Because we know that without such laws
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:52 AM
Nov 2012

the drug racketeers would never consider acquiring such weapons.

Did you even think before posting that jem?

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
7. Okay everybody, is this a proper posting for...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:42 AM
Nov 2012

a gun-controller, but not for a pro-2A poster? I'm confused about the "alert" process, and don't want to fire too many blanks and suffer some kind of consequence.

So, a clarification: Do you, Kolesar, think the real constituency (in this group) is a "drug racketeer caucus?"

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
12. As we can see, political failure makes some bitter and angry.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:56 PM
Nov 2012

Sad watching DUers acting like Republicans after PBO's re-election...

Response to Kolesar (Reply #2)

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
11. Carping about reducing noise pollution? Really?
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:53 PM
Nov 2012

While simultaneously implying that we're a bunch of sociopaths?

Silencers and sawed off shotguns for the drug racketeer caucus

The real constituency here


Political failure sure makes people bitter....


Straw Man

(6,625 posts)
13. Hi.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:04 AM
Nov 2012
Silencers and sawed off shotguns for the drug racketeer caucus

The real constituency here

Go peddle your slanderous horseshit somewhere else.
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
6. This OP IS the grand stereotype!
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:31 AM
Nov 2012


The characteristics assigned to Texas can be said about MOST states! Why let Texas get all the credit?

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
14. Don't Texans have to go through the same Class III procedure?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:29 AM
Nov 2012

Tax stamp and paperwork and all that? The article makes it sound like Texas is unique in legalizing ownership.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
16. Yes, Texas is no diffrent than any other state in the Union.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:59 PM
Nov 2012

We go through the same procedures as anybody else. What the complaint is that the local LEO's are willing to sign off on the application.

That is why they are pissing all over themselves.

petronius

(26,603 posts)
18. That's a rather good article for a student paper (for any paper, really), and I'm
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:33 AM
Nov 2012

favorably impressed by the comments of the Univ. Police Dept. as well, but whichever professor is in charge of introducing A & M students to the Constitution (and the Declaration of Independence) may need to expand that lecture:

“The Constitution tells me I have a right to life,” Mohle said. “By disarming me, suddenly I see that right whisking away quicker than if I had been allowed my Second Amendment rights.”

Ajufo sees the clause in a different light.

“The First Amendment guarantees life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, so it would be unreasonable to assume that one citizen’s right to bear arms should trump another citizen’s right to life,” Ajufo said.

As for my take on it, I see no reason whatsoever why students who are legally entitled to carry off campus should be prevented from doing so on campus...
 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
22. I agree SecularMotion
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:18 AM
Nov 2012

It is stupid some other states have laws on the books that limit ownership of firearms.

Finally you are getting it!

Congratulations we are very proud of you here.

See boys he is finally learning .








 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
24. Sounds great!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:10 AM
Nov 2012
There is no state firearm registration...

Awesome! The second amendment is about countering federal military power. Registration undermines that ability. Go Texas!

...no limit on magazine size or ammunition purchases.

Yay Texas!

Class III weapons, including suppressors, machine guns and short-barreled firearms, are legal.

Of course, all federal laws still apply, which means a $200 tax plus the going rates for machine guns start at around $5000 these days.

Since the expiration of the federal assault weapons ban, Texas places no restrictions on “assault weapons.”

Yay Texas! Especially since all rifles combined only account for about 300 homicides annually.

Texas is a “castle doctrine” state, a “stand your ground” state and a “peaceable journey” state.

Yay Texas!

A&M policy currently allows concealed carry on campus, but not in university buildings.

Yay Texas A&M!

“This hypothesis states that when goal-directed activity is blocked, frustration and anger are aroused,” Bodden said. “However, violent action is not likely to occur unless ‘aggressive cues’ such as guns, knives and weapons are present. If present, the odds of aggressive action go way up. If we go a step further and assume that the frustrated person with a gun has also been drinking and is an impulsive adolescent, then we have a recipe for disaster.”

First of all, there is nothing, I say again, nothing to stop impulsive, drunk adolescents from going on a shooting rampage on a college campus right now. Making it legal for adults 21 years of age or older to carry concealed firearms on campus is not going to change that fact.

When Professor Amy Bishop came to my campus building and shot 6 people, killing 3 of them, the rules did not stop her at all. She went home and got her "aggressive cue" and then went forth on her mission to kill people on campus.
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