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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:48 AM Dec 2012

Assault weapon used in Cedar Rapids shooting was once banned from manufacture in US

An assault weapon used in a shooting outside of a Cedar Rapids bar last weekend was once banned from manufacture in the United States, but is now legal in most states, including Iowa.

The Tec-9, a 9-millimeter semi-automatic pistol was included in the Federal Assault Weapons Ban that expired in 2004 and has not been renewed since. Cedar Rapids police confirmed Tuesday a Tec-9 was used in the shooting Sunday night that left a man with multiple gunshot wounds.

James A. Breen, 27, of 125 21st St. NE, has been charged with attempted murder and going armed with intent after the shooting outside of Rumors Bar and Grill, 400 F Ave. NW. He is accused of shooting Cory Forbes, 28, of Cedar Rapids.

Cedar Rapids Police Chief Wayne Jerman said the gun used in the shooting was recovered at the scene, and investigators were trying to determine its origins with help from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. As of Tuesday morning, the gun had not been reported stolen, Jerman said.

http://thegazette.com/2012/11/20/assault-weapon-used-in-cedar-rapids-shooting-was-once-banned-from-manufacture-in-u-s/
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Assault weapon used in Cedar Rapids shooting was once banned from manufacture in US (Original Post) SecularMotion Dec 2012 OP
So the SN indicates post ban manufacture? ileus Dec 2012 #1
Intratec went out of business in 2001. justanidea Dec 2012 #2
Being deliberately misleading is a habit. n/t Clames Dec 2012 #3
Oh there is a poin to be made. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #4
All the AWB did was force a name change. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #5
Not one single gun was actually banned by the AWB. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #6
If the guy had used a Glock... krispos42 Dec 2012 #7
Since no "assault weapons" were banned, meaningless OP. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #8
What is the difference in these two guns? GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #9
I now realize after looking at those pictures, trouble.smith Dec 2012 #10
I realize just the opposite. Straw Man Dec 2012 #11
it was based on a submachine gun design that never entered gejohnston Dec 2012 #12
Mine looks like the bottom picture except it has the threaded barrel but not the extended shroud. pop topcan Dec 2012 #13
The top one has the shoulder thing that goes up. jbgood1977 Dec 2012 #14

ileus

(15,396 posts)
1. So the SN indicates post ban manufacture?
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:02 AM
Dec 2012

Wonder if the writer knows it's not an assault weapon and was never really banned?

 

justanidea

(291 posts)
2. Intratec went out of business in 2001.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:50 AM
Dec 2012

So they never made any Tec9s after the AWB ended.

Which makes this articles title kind of pointless.

 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
5. All the AWB did was force a name change.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:02 AM
Dec 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEC-9

"The TEC-9 and, eventually, TEC-DC9 variants were listed among the 19 firearms banned by name in the USA by the now expired 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB). This ban caused the cessation of their manufacture, and forced Intratec to introduce a newer model called the AB-10, a TEC-9 Mini without a threaded muzzle and limited to a 10 round magazine instead of a 20 or 32 round magazine. However, it accepted the high capacity magazines of the pre-ban models."

All they did was eliminate the threaded muzzle and change the name. They could not sell new high capacity magazines, but since the gun used pre-ban magazines nothing changed.

The Assault Weapons Ban did not do anything to stop the accessibility of these firearms.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
6. Not one single gun was actually banned by the AWB.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:26 AM
Dec 2012

All the AWB banned was certain cosmetic features on guns. The AWB was all about how a gun looked, not how it functioned. The manufacturers made the needed cosmetic changes and changed the names of the guns and continued to sell the same guns. The anti-gun folks screamed that the makers were evading the law, but actually they were complying exactly with the letter of the law.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
7. If the guy had used a Glock...
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:05 PM
Dec 2012

...would the outcome have been different?

I wish more criminals used TEC-9s instead of Glocks... TEC-9s are much more difficult to conceal.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
9. What is the difference in these two guns?
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:23 PM
Dec 2012

This is a TEC-9 which was banned by the so-called Assault Weapons Ban of 1994.


This the AB-10, which was made by the same company during the AWB, until the company folded.
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Internal workings are exactly the same in both guns. Both take the same magazines. Yet one was AWB illegal and the other was AWB legal.

BTW-The AB stands for "After Ban". 10, of course, is the next number after 9, hence the name "AB-10"

Straw Man

(6,625 posts)
11. I realize just the opposite.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 06:07 PM
Dec 2012

I don't want or need a handgun whose only distinguishing characteristic is that it is large and unwieldy. It's a handgun that looks like a submachine gun but isn't. The Tec-9's days were numbered even before the AWB.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
12. it was based on a submachine gun design that never entered
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 06:14 PM
Dec 2012

production. I have never seen the logic of such pistols either, other maybe mall ninja "tacticool" or novelty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdynamic_MP-9

 

pop topcan

(124 posts)
13. Mine looks like the bottom picture except it has the threaded barrel but not the extended shroud.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:03 PM
Dec 2012

There must be a few different variations on the model...interesting.

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