Gun Control & RKBA

mikeb302000

(1,065 posts) Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:23 AM Dec 2012

The 2nd Worst Mass Shooting in U.S. History

I blame the gun-rights movement.

The reason I say that is this shooting, like all the others, is the direct result of loose gun laws and the resultant gun availability to unfit people. The gun-rights folks, led by the NRA, are responsible for keeping things that way, and in many cases, making them even worse. They spend lots of money and even more time and effort on the internet spreading their false doctrine that more guns means less crime. Nothing could be further from the truth.

In the next days we'll hear countless pro-gun fanatics claim that this wouldn't have happened if the school hadn't been a gun-free zone. They frequently claim that mass shooters calculatingly select gun-free zones for their attacks. This is a double lie.

The truth is, as was probably the case today, spree shooters generally go to the place of their grievance regardless of its gun control status. And, as we saw in Phoenix last year, when the shooting takes place where guns are allowed, concealed carry permit holders are powerless to stop it.

Proper gun control laws would eliminate some of these incidents. Gun availability to the unfit, whether they be dangerous criminals or the mentally ill, could easily be diminished by simply closing the private-sale loophole. Borderline psychotics could in many cases be identified before they act, with improved mental health background checks and basic mental health testing. Gun-rights activists are preventing this from happening. That's why they are to blame.

Hopefully, the Presidents tearful remarks today will augur well for the long-overdue changes we need in our gun laws and our attitudes of accepting these all-too-frequent shootings.

Cross posted at Mikeb302000

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The 2nd Worst Mass Shooting in U.S. History (Original Post) mikeb302000 Dec 2012 OP

I blame Reagan ileus Dec 2012 #1

since he did not own the guns gejohnston Dec 2012 #2

It turns out she was a gun nut like you. mikeb302000 Dec 2012 #6

just because she was a target shooter gejohnston Dec 2012 #8

I blame you rl6214 Dec 2012 #3

+1*E1000 Clames Dec 2012 #5

NRA this, NRA that... LP2K12 Dec 2012 #4

The 1st and 2nd both happened in a "Gun Free Zone" holdencaufield Dec 2012 #7

ileus

(15,396 posts)

1. I blame Reagan

Reply to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:05 AM

Dec 2012

and of course the gunman...

I am rethinking my schools as a gun free zone. Our schools are locked down except for the office and the county provides a deputy during normal school hours.

Now I'm thinking the principles office should house at least one carbine (beretta storm in 45) with two or three trained staff to respond to any incident like this.

Remember stay safe my friends, and it's events such at this we carry our personal safety devices.

Refuse to be a willing victim.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

2. since he did not own the guns

Reply to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:46 AM

Dec 2012

the stole them from his mother, who was one of your proper people, after murdering her your entire rant is moot and asinine.
You don't know the any of those specifics to be facts.
Oh yeah, last I checked it was the worst shooting. It might be second worst school massacre. None of your gun law ideas would have done nothing to prevent the worst school massacre in US history even though he could have legally could have bought a sub machine gun from a mail order catalogue. Instead, he beat his wife to death before planting three bombs that killed 38 kids, six adults, wounded about 60.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
If anyone is the fanatic here, it is you.

mikeb302000

(1,065 posts)

6. It turns out she was a gun nut like you.

Reply to gejohnston (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:32 AM

Dec 2012

And, like many gun nuts, she didn't have the common sense to deny access to her disturbed sonny boy.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

8. just because she was a target shooter

Reply to mikeb302000 (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:16 PM

Dec 2012

doesn't mean she was a gun nut, whatever that is. He was a smart adult, maybe he knew the safe combo without her knowing it. You always assume and imagine.