or learning the issues? Simple answers to complex issues are not solutions. That is how the real world works. Deal with it. Besides, we do offer ideas and solutions only to be dismissed as "NRA talking points."

It is time to put up or shut up. If it can't be made safe, you lose the privledge.

why should I pay for someone else? I didn't steal the guns and murder anyone.

In modern democratic states, a privilege is conditional and granted only after birth. By contrast, a right is an inherent, irrevocable entitlement held by all citizens or all human beings from the moment of birth.

PRIVILEGE, rights. This word, taken its active sense, is a particular law, or a particular disposition of the law, which grants certain special prerogatives to some persons, contrary to common right. In its passive sense, it is the same prerogative granted by the same particular law.
2. Examples of privilege may be found in all systems of law; members of congress and of the several legislatures, during a certain time, parties and witnesses while attending court; and coming to and returning from the same; electors, while going to the election, remaining on the ground, or returning from the same, are all privileged from arrest, except for treason, felony or breach of the peace.Chit. Com. Law, 431.

Where do your rights end where mine begin?

who had nothing to do with any crime, instead of the individual responsible through due process? I'm guessing the fourth and fifth amendments will be next since, using your definition, they are also privileges.

amendment (unlikely as things stand now), then you would need to have 38 states ratify the amendment (almost impossible). Do you think that even today, if a vote were taken in congress tomorrow, that repealing the 2nd amendment would pass? Even more importantly do you really believe there are not 13 states that would refuse to ratify?

If you want to own guns, make it safe. Otherwise you are complicit in the murders from here on out.

You'll need 12 jurors for each of the 80,000,000 American gun owners to make that stick.

No thanks, you can try again.

I never underestimate doodlers. One of them invented the autopilot. Doodled it on a dinner napkin.

Any other commercial products you want to apply this logic to?

And they're perfectly safe. I've owned a self defense firearm of some sort for 38 years now and I've never had any part or responsibility in any firearm death or injury. Blame those who are responsible, not people like myself who have nothing to do with anything illegal.

Personally I think that is where we need to be looking but I do not know what federal laws allow.

safes and gun trigger rfid safety releases. What failed with Lanza was why the guns were not secured so that he had no access? Why did she involve him with guns in the first pplace? n regards to Loughner and Holmes why were they able to get guns with a mental condition?

they were not adjudicated, the system had know way of knowing. That falls on the family and others around them.

The thing is- meaningful reform or they are gone. Period, end of story.

You are on the right track.

You should write to the NRA and bring that up as an idea, they'll put those friendly folks over at ALEC to work on it.