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CarrieLynne

(497 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:58 PM Jul 2013

Two different Army events - prayer at both

I'm new to the military culture, and I admit I dont know much...Imma noob....but now I have been to two Army events...a holiday party and yesterday an officer school graduation ceremony.....both times, there was someone leading everyone in prayer...and it just struck me as odd...beyond the whole taxpayer money issue - it was odd....maybe partially because I havent seen anyone pray in a long time lol so theres almost a feeling of...I dunno weirdness at seeing that...like that feeling you get when someone plays a ouija board in front of you ... spooky kinda.........but then I think about those two groups of soldiers out on the field yesterday....hundreds of them....and I wondered how many dont pray to that god....what about those who dont pray at all? I kept wondering if any of them felt as odd as I did at being asked to bow our heads and beg an invisible friend to help with whatever....

I dunno....seems like they shouldnt be doing that....

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Two different Army events - prayer at both (Original Post) CarrieLynne Jul 2013 OP
Get used to it. GentryDixon Jul 2013 #1
For years I thought this was a product of the Eisenhower.. Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #3
Disrespecting the Constitution ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #2
It's all part of the indoctrination mwrguy Jul 2013 #4
I appreciated it... ShawnRIN Jul 2013 #5
Invocations and benedictions occur at Presidential Inaugurations. Congress opens with a prayer each MADem Jul 2013 #6

GentryDixon

(2,961 posts)
1. Get used to it.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:03 PM
Jul 2013

They always open military events with a prayer. They even have Nation Prayer Breakfasts. You learn to ignore the opening of any military gathering. You cannot change it, so just roll with the flow.

My Jewish boss would always turn his back to the opening ceremony. I myself, just thought about the menu coming up!

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
3. For years I thought this was a product of the Eisenhower..
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jul 2013

..influence, ya know the "we are better than the godless commies" thing (like the "under god" line injected into the pledge of allegiance).
By in History of western civilization, I learned it is more of a European based traditional "God on our side" thing.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Invocations and benedictions occur at Presidential Inaugurations. Congress opens with a prayer each
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:46 PM
Jul 2013

morning, in both Houses.

Chaplains (who hold military rank) are in the services to "facilitate the free practice of religion" amongst the military. They will often do invocations/benedictions at official events.

If they are doing it right, there shouldn't be too much specificity when it comes to deities. No talk of In Jesus' name, or Mohamad Peace Be Upon Him. The generic "Lord" is the most commonly used term, or just plain old God.

They teach kids in boot camp/OCS etc. that you don't have to buy off, but you do have to wait it out.

The origins behind the military chaplains go back to the days when we didn't have so much religious choice. There were only a few flavors, everyone had an affiliation, and the government wanted to make sure that people were not DENIED an opportunity to practice their faith as a consequence of deployment or remote location. I can see this perspective. I don't understand why we need uniformed chaplains, though--or at least ones with rank. I think we should affiliate them in a different way, and get rid of the rank--it causes too much of that "finger on their number" shit where these supposed men/women of God are more concerned about advancement than ministering to their flocks.

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