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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:51 AM Nov 2013

Techies vs. NSA: Encryption arms race escalates

http://www.adn.com/2013/11/29/3203295/techies-vs-nsa-encryption-arms.html


Techies vs. NSA: Encryption arms race escalates
By MARTHA MENDOZA
November 29, 2013 Updated 7 minutes ago

SAN JOSE, Calif. — Encrypted email, secure instant messaging and other privacy services are booming in the wake of the National Security Agency's recently revealed surveillance programs. But the flood of new computer security services is of variable quality, and much of it, experts say, can bog down computers and isn't likely to keep out spies.

In the end, the new geek wars —between tech industry programmers on the one side and government spooks, fraudsters and hacktivists on the other— may leave people's PCs and businesses' computer systems encrypted to the teeth but no better protected from hordes of savvy code crackers.

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In addition, experts agree that with enough time and money, any encryption can be broken. And already the NSA has bypassed —or altogether cracked— much of the digital encryption that businesses and everyday Web surfers use, according to reports based on Snowden's disclosures. The reports describe how the NSA invested billions of dollars, starting in 2000, to make nearly everyone's secrets available for government consumption.

Meanwhile, the U.S. government's computing power continues to grow. This fall, the NSA plans to open a $1.7 billion cyber-arsenal — a Utah data center filled with super-powered computers designed to store massive amounts of classified information, including data that awaits decryption.
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Techies vs. NSA: Encryption arms race escalates (Original Post) unhappycamper Nov 2013 OP
"In addition, experts agree that with enough time and money, any encryption can be broken." bemildred Nov 2013 #1
^^THIS^^ longship Nov 2013 #2
Yes, thank you, exactly. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #3

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
1. "In addition, experts agree that with enough time and money, any encryption can be broken."
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 10:13 AM
Nov 2013

That is pure 100% bullshit. All of the NSA breaking we are being told about is "social engineering". Only the weaker forms of mathematical encryption are "broken", and even there it's going to cost you time and money. And nothing breaks a one-time pad, cause there is nothing to break. Also, The Snowden has told us that "encryption works", and he would know.

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. ^^THIS^^
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:59 PM
Nov 2013

Encryption can be made arbitrarily secure. That means so secure that it is not reasonable to say that it could be cracked in a given number of years given current technology.

The trap door algorithms used for current public key cryptography can keep stuff safe from prying eyes. And there are solutions which are open source and free. Of course, open source is to protect against back doors.

That doesn't stop somebody like NSA tracking message traffic, even if the content is inaccessible to them.

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