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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 06:12 AM Jul 2014

Second NSA Whistleblower Confirms Snowden Allegations, and adds more (Video Interview)

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Second-NSA-Whistleblower-C-by-Scott-Baker-Federal-Agency-NSA_Protestors_Snowden_Unconstitutional-140702-298.html



Second NSA Whistleblower Confirms Snowden Allegations, and adds more (Video Interview)
By Scott Baker
General News 7/2/2014 at 10:41:31

In a series of 4 reports by Reporter/Monetary Reformer Bill Still, the NSA's highest ranking official to date, Bill Binney, who went by the title of "technical director of the world for G.O. political and military analysis and reporting group" has confirmed everything Edward Snowden has said so far, and added that the NSA has 2,000 transcribers whose job it is just to take down whatever the electronic data gathers cannot (due to background noise, he says). He quit on moral conscience grounds, just like Snowden.
Here is the first video:



In the second video, Bill Binney confirms that all content of all phone calls within the United States are recorded and one million a day are transcribed for permanent preservation. He concludes that this means the government NSA officials have perjured themselves by claiming otherwise.



In the last video, Binney everyone, even the Supreme Court, is spied upon. Further, the NSA will collect data and then, if they find something illegal, they will work backwards through legal channels to obtain the same information in a legal way. Still and Binney compare this to conducting an Easter Egg hunt while knowing where all the Easter Eggs are buried.
Binney concludes by saying Snowden would not get a fair trial in America, due to invocation of the State Secret's Act, that would suppress all evidence and effectively silence him.

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Second NSA Whistleblower Confirms Snowden Allegations, and adds more (Video Interview) (Original Post) unhappycamper Jul 2014 OP
Not news kokobell616 Jul 2014 #1
So when do we imthevicar Jul 2014 #2
Soon pocoloco Jul 2014 #3
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #4
Veiled agencies! Administrations and congress come and go, but some agencies continue RKP5637 Jul 2014 #5
I hope Mr. Binney is safely out of the country. Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #6
They even listen to the supreme court and congress bonniebgood Jul 2014 #7
Oh brother, another guy with ODS mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #8
He retired in 2001 and hasn't been cleared since 2007. How would he know? jmowreader Jul 2014 #9

kokobell616

(35 posts)
1. Not news
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:22 AM
Jul 2014

Maybe, just maybe if enough people come to the same conclusion and decide that spying on Americans using their phone calls as evidence to justify searching their phones for evidence might be criminal, then maybe, just maybe the practice will stop.

Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
5. Veiled agencies! Administrations and congress come and go, but some agencies continue
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:46 AM
Jul 2014

with details often shrouded from view, none the wiser. This, is dangerous in a democracy.

bonniebgood

(943 posts)
7. They even listen to the supreme court and congress
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:32 AM
Jul 2014

conversations? Now I understand why all these vile decisions, lawless ruling coming from the high court and lower court and the 'do nothing congress', they have no choice. the one percent controls it all. they would be blackmailed if they don't do as they are told. in my opinion.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
9. He retired in 2001 and hasn't been cleared since 2007. How would he know?
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 01:37 PM
Jul 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Binney_(U.S._intelligence_official)

Mr. Binney was part of one of two working groups that was designing a system to "analyze data on communication networks like the Internet."

Binney's team of NSA officers created a system called ThinThread.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinThread

A private-sector team championed by then-Director Michael Hayden created a competing system called Trailblazer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailblazer_Project

Apparently ThinThread worked in testing (although a few things were missing, like the ability to create trouble tickets for when it broke), but NSA went with the Trailblazer concept, which they never could get to work. He retired shortly after his system was rejected, and has spent his remaining years talking about how NSA's just full of spies who are worse than the KGB and Stasi now, and how America Would Be Much Greater if his all-seeing-but-American-guarding system had been deployed instead of Trailblazer. To make a long story (that contains FBI agents pointing guns in his face while he was in the shower) short, he lost his clearance in 2007 for spreading these stories.

So the question is, if he hasn't even been in the building in 12 years and lists his job title as something that makes no sense ("political" and "military" desks are separate, and the "military" desks are staffed by people whose first name is Sergeant; there are "economic/political" desks), can he be believed?
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