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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:39 PM Apr 2015

CIA Director: We’re Winning the War on Terror, But It Will Never End

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However, the most interesting question posed to Brennan came at the very end from a Harvard freshman who identified himself as Julian: “We’ve been fighting the war on terror since 2001. Is there an end in sight, or should we get used to this new state of existence?

Brennan replied:

It’s a long war, unfortunately. But it’s been a war that has been in existence for millennia, at the same time—the use of violence for political purposes against noncombatants by either a state actor or a subnational group.

Terrorism has taken many forms over the years. What is more challenging now is, again, the technology that is available to terrorists, the great devastation that can be created by even a handful of folks, and also mass communication that just proliferates all of this activity and incitement and encouragement. So you have an environment now that’s very conducive to that type of propaganda and recruitment efforts, as well as the ability to get materials that are going to kill people. And so this is going to be something, I think, that we’re always going to have to be vigilant about. There is evil in the world and some people just want to kill for the sake of killing…This is something that, whether it’s from this group right now or another group, I think the ability to cause damage and violence and kill will be with us for many years to come.

We just have to not kill our way out of this because that’s not going to address it. We need to stop those attacks that are in train but we also have to address some of those underlying factors and conditions. I’m not saying that poverty causes somebody to become a terrorist, or a lack of governance, but they certainly do allow these terrorist organizations to grow and they take full advantage of those opportunities.

To summarize, the war on terrorism is working, compared to inaction or other policies. But, the American people should expect it to continue for millennia, or as long as lethal technologies and mass communication remain available to evil people.

http://blogs.cfr.org/zenko/2015/04/08/cia-director-were-winning-the-war-on-terror-but-it-will-never-end/
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GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
1. It's a classic. "We are doing a great job so the money we blew was well spent. BUT ... BUT ... BUT
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:42 PM
Apr 2015

we didn't do THAT good a job, so we're gonna need you to keep the cash flowing."

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
6. remember the "peace dividend" after 1991? huh, huh, YEAH
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:34 PM
Apr 2015

instead the MIC, long experienced in warehousing unused engineers while rolling in cost-plus contracts, managed to keep the contracts and dump the workers--it's almost like alchemy

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
9. that's why the F-35 is so unsurprising: it works GREAT for the makers!
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 04:10 PM
Apr 2015

even if the tenders' tanks have to be white on the outside or everything locks up because *the fuel's too warm*

that's how the whole aero"space" sector has worked: if a paid-for project didn't work, well, it was clearly because they didn't get enough money in the first place! ("Blue Sky Tribe" by David Beers is great on this)

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
11. if everyone thinks that way, then who's gonna complain?--especially if it makes you nice and rich!
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:11 PM
Apr 2015

the generals say it, the Pentagon contract reviewers say it, the witty professors say it, the Senators say it, the charming-tiki-party-host engineers say it, their wives say it in their box socials and Space-Age churches, their kids overhear it before they're released into the cul-de-sacs, the newspapers say it, the sci-fi magazines say it, the mayors say it, the teachers say it, the soda jerks say it, the swim coaches say it--what sort of psychotic parade-raining Luddite would totally reject this notion?

it's also an ideological statement: Neil deGrasse Tyson's saying it when he says doubling NASA's budget will "transform the country from a sullen, dispirited nation, weary of economic struggle, to one where it has reclaimed its 20th century birthright to dream of tomorrow": it's like the tinpot dictatorships that try "voodoo development" where 1. if rich countries have stadiums and supermarkets, 2. we build big stadiums (some with more seating capacity than the town they're set in) and supermarkets, 3. we get as rich! or at least show off our modernity, so how can you say we have starving kids!

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
12. It's a good plan. But it'll need some knockoff American fast food restaurants. How about
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:34 PM
Apr 2015

McDoogles, Burger Duke, and IHOG (International House of Gyros).

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
2. If only this war on terrorism had been seen as a law enforcement problem instead of a military
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:47 PM
Apr 2015

problem we would be much better off. The wars have and still are better at creating terrorists than stopping them. I think ISIS is the best example of this.

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