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trof

(54,256 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 08:56 PM Mar 2019

We had it tough in the office back then.

If you had to type something with two or three (PLEASE NO!) carbon copies you had to hit the typewriter keys so hard that the original had holes for periods.

Those round typewriter erasers with the little brush (for brushing off the erasure grit?) that usually made a hole in the paper and you had to start all over.

Then they came up with Wite Out, a white fluid you could paint over mistakes and type over it.
A page with Wite Out (BIC) looked worse than one with erasure holes in it.

You used a 3 hole punch to put pages in a 3 ring binder.
After a short while the holes would tear through.
Then they came up with those little gummy reinforcement rings you could v-e-r-y c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y lick and stick around the holes. If you were very conscientious you'd put the stickers on BOTH sides of the hole.
"Hell, that aught to hold it for-ever!"
And the glue would dry up after a few months and the stickers would come off and the holes would tear through anyway.

Mimeograph machhines.
I don't even want to go there.

What are your favorite memories of office work back in the day?





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We had it tough in the office back then. (Original Post) trof Mar 2019 OP
Using punch cards to write programs. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #1
Oh yes! Useless in FL Mar 2019 #15
I use to be one of those keypunchers. Delmette2.0 Mar 2019 #28
Back Spacing GP6971 Mar 2019 #2
Writing on clay tablets SCantiGOP Mar 2019 #3
Wins the day! marked50 Mar 2019 #19
Back in the '70's sazemisery Mar 2019 #4
Putting footnotes at the bottom of a research paper page. badhair77 Mar 2019 #5
Doing double entry accounting by hand, with a pen htuttle Mar 2019 #6
That journal page prought a flashback to Accounting 101. trof Mar 2019 #26
I used one with a "one armed bandit" style handle. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #31
Communicating to overseas clients by Telex. . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2019 #7
Happy memories of that n/t Lulu KC Mar 2019 #25
I miss the smell of mimeographed papers. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #8
what was that stuff anyway KT2000 Mar 2019 #11
I don't know what the solution/chemical was but when I became a teacher BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #14
I loved the smell of mimeograph in the morning! mountain grammy Mar 2019 #17
..... BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #18
Yes! It smelled like ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #23
My first "real" job was as a Fed. Govt. clerk-steno. 1974. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2019 #9
IBM Selectric KT2000 Mar 2019 #10
Loved the Selectric! AwakeAtLast Mar 2019 #21
MA thesis, PhD dissertation on 2 carbons. Admin went thru each page sorting 1st,2nd copy by-- bobbieinok Mar 2019 #12
Ohhhh... I remember those days. We prepared manual spreadsheet Useless in FL Mar 2019 #13
Was in school for those oldies, elleng Mar 2019 #16
Using an adding machine (big, black, clunky) with a handle lillypaddle Mar 2019 #20
Bright yellow punch tape, the slight oily feel, the "chads" kept in a metal box. philly_bob Mar 2019 #22
Ashtrays on desks. A beer and burger for lunch. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #24
And the overhead trolleys nitpicker Mar 2019 #27
I've been enjoying reading about everyone 's memories! And I can relate to most. Ohiogal Mar 2019 #29
A while back I read an entire book about the development of photocopying. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #30
They laughed at me at work one time a few years back bearfan454 Jul 2019 #32

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. Using punch cards to write programs.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 08:59 PM
Mar 2019

And hoping that no mistakes were made, especially at the end of the punch card.

Useless in FL

(329 posts)
15. Oh yes!
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:30 PM
Mar 2019

We wrote the program instructions and then sent them to be key-punched on stacks of punch cards. Of course I dropped the stack of cards before testing and then had to reassemble them in order of instruction. It was like a grand "pick em up sticks" game.

Delmette2.0

(4,166 posts)
28. I use to be one of those keypunchers.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 10:38 AM
Mar 2019

It got my foot in the door at a bank which lead to a better job. About 12 years later I took my sons to a computer museum. It started with an abacus and ended with one of those keypunch machines. I really felt old to see that.

sazemisery

(2,608 posts)
4. Back in the '70's
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:04 PM
Mar 2019

My mother owned an H & R Block and we had a Diazo copier that used an ammonia/water solution in the process of making copies. We had to wear a mask to operate it.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
5. Putting footnotes at the bottom of a research paper page.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:06 PM
Mar 2019

If I didn’t leave enough space I’d have to type the darn thing all over again. Thank goodness for the future Works Cited page and the word processor.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
6. Doing double entry accounting by hand, with a pen
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:12 PM
Mar 2019


Bob Cratchet had nothing on us, though -- we had a fancy electric adding machine to help.



Note, this is the newer one we had. The older one was entirely mechanical and had a huge lever on the side like a taximeter.




KT2000

(20,583 posts)
11. what was that stuff anyway
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:18 PM
Mar 2019

At school, I could smell it in the hallways if anyone was copying. I wonder how many people got loaded on that stuff at work and school.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
14. I don't know what the solution/chemical was but when I became a teacher
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:28 PM
Mar 2019

in the 90s I checked out the copying situation and was disappointed that Xerox had replaced the mimeographs. The machine say in the workroom unused for years before it was eventually removed.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,011 posts)
9. My first "real" job was as a Fed. Govt. clerk-steno. 1974.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:13 PM
Mar 2019

Not only did we have to make numerous carbon file copies of every letter and memo we typed - the letters and memos we typed weren't allowed to have any corrections in them. You could get to the bottom of a long letter you'd type perfectly and hit the wrong key in the last word - have to rip it out of the typewriter and start over.

My first government typewriter was an IBM Executive typewriter. I hated that thing with a red hot passion.

But if it weren't for all the clerical work that computers and automated voicemail and email and work from home have now replaced, I wouldn't have gotten promoted out of the secretarial field. I do have some fond memories of it. (Not so fond of having to take dictation! Does anybody still even teach Gregg shorthand?)

Thanks for the walk down memory lane!

KT2000

(20,583 posts)
10. IBM Selectric
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:16 PM
Mar 2019

With the erase ribbon, I could type just as fast backwards as forward.

I overheard the Olivetti salesman tell the boss that "the girls just like the IBM Selectric so they could impress their friends." Boss ordered the Olivetti. They were so loud they have to develop a plastic cover to keep the noise down.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
12. MA thesis, PhD dissertation on 2 carbons. Admin went thru each page sorting 1st,2nd copy by--
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:18 PM
Mar 2019

She picked out darker copies as number 1, lighter as number 2. Colors changed just before typist changed carbons.

Never really understood what was going on. Did typist move 2nd carbon up to 1st, so that only 1 carbon was thrown out and only 1 was added.

I just know the checking took a long time, and admin chose reader for extremely good eyes.
I believe school adopted new policy at end of 60s
There was a major break-through when the school decided to accept Xerox copies in place of carbons.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
16. Was in school for those oldies,
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:44 PM
Mar 2019

amazingly thankful by the time I got out of school, electric typewriters and computers became available!

DID use wite out!

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
20. Using an adding machine (big, black, clunky) with a handle
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:46 PM
Mar 2019

I learned how to multiply with it by adding zeros. crank, crank.

Yeah, typing was a bitch, trof, especially if you needed copies. I remember all of that.

Worked in customer service at a local bank & every morning we had to file the checks, which were waiting for us stacked on top of the file cabinets. Seemed like there were tons of them. And there was a microfiche machine that someone had to run all the checks that had cleared through.

Eventually I was promoted to supervisor of the check printing department - yep, we made the metal plates with people's names and then printed up the checks right there in the lobby while people waited. One time Annabelle got her fall caught in the rollers and man, it was a big fucking mess, but couldn't help laughing. And believe it or not, in between check runs, we'd go in this little closet and take a few hits off a joint. What on earth was I thinking???? Luckily, never got caught. Well, that's what they get for making me supervisor.

Um, those were the days all right! LOL



philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
22. Bright yellow punch tape, the slight oily feel, the "chads" kept in a metal box.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:04 AM
Mar 2019

The tapes rolled up in figure-eight pattern for storage. My muscle memory still recalls that figure-eight roll-up pattern, which I haven't used for 50 years -- and I never found another use for that skill.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
24. Ashtrays on desks. A beer and burger for lunch.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:17 AM
Mar 2019

Suits. neckties, dry cleaning.

Polished shoes.

Coding forms, to send to the keypunch operators. Using jumper wires to program the card sorters, duplicating punches, etc.

Open windows on hot days, before widespread air conditioning.

Sending documents to other departments via pneumatic tubes: THUMP! You've got mail!

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
27. And the overhead trolleys
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:11 AM
Mar 2019

Shuffling files between departments.

And people visiting, convinced they could get a better assignment if they visited in person instead of trying to get through on the phone.

Let's not forget the "portable" computers of the mid-80s, only 25 pounds with one floppy to input the operating system and another to load in data.

And before then, seven-column paper. And pushing it onto the prongs.

Edit: and batch tape processing, so people would show up without any proof they had completed training.

And the input to make those tapes, where one failure meant the whole batch needed to be redone...

Ohiogal

(32,006 posts)
29. I've been enjoying reading about everyone 's memories! And I can relate to most.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 10:45 AM
Mar 2019

I remember those awful old typewriters and typing carbons in triplicate.

And changing the ribbon, you’d get ink all over your hands, or worse, on your good clothes.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
30. A while back I read an entire book about the development of photocopying.
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 12:51 PM
Mar 2019
Copies in Seconds: Chester Carlson and the Birth of the Xerox Machine by David Owen. Sadly, it seems to be out of print. It is one of the most interesting books I've ever read, so if you can lay your hands on a copy, read it.

The relevant point is that when the first models of photocopy machines were placed in business offices on a trial basis, when the trial was over they practically had to pry the secretaries off of them to get machines back out of the offices. The technology completely transformed the office.

I still can't get over the fact that I can own my own personal photocopy machine that sits on my little computer desk and cost me about fifty dollars.

bearfan454

(6,697 posts)
32. They laughed at me at work one time a few years back
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 02:41 PM
Jul 2019

I had to display some charts in a meeting and I asked if we had an overhead projector and some clear foils to print the color charts on so I could put them up on the screen. I was shown powerpoint and went from there.

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