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BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:17 PM Dec 2014

I understand the demographics of DU

But there are just some posters out there that think we just fell up the turnip truck. Good Lord...From the poster who didn't think comparing a Black man to an ape is racist to posters who think they have an insight into our community from reading a newspaper, some people think they have us all figured out

Fuck em....got to call them on the bullshir

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I understand the demographics of DU (Original Post) BronxBoy Dec 2014 OP
Me too! JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #1
It's starting to get out of hand all right brush Dec 2014 #2
It was in one of the threads BronxBoy Dec 2014 #4
Please tell me that didn't happen here. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #17
Good Gods, she Hekate Dec 2014 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #7
Looks like I missed a live one... BronxBoy Dec 2014 #11
If so... can you explain it ( the demographics of DU) to the rest of us? Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #3
What???? BronxBoy Dec 2014 #6
Oooops. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #10
Still don't understand your question.., BronxBoy Dec 2014 #12
You ask that with a handle like "Smarmie Doofus"? Really? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #13
That's a good handle for that one rbrnmw Dec 2014 #21
what relevance does her DU name have to do with the question she asked? why the unwarranted NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #33
It's not "snarkiness". It's bemusement over irony. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #39
Polite racists are the bane of my existence. bravenak Dec 2014 #5
Ditto the condescending ones... BronxBoy Dec 2014 #8
I hate the ones that try to teach us how to protest properly. bravenak Dec 2014 #9
No shit. It's like they're claiming their way is "more civilized"..... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #14
I wish they had shot fire arrows at the ships sometimes. bravenak Dec 2014 #15
Yeah, but they tried to pin it on us. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #26
OMG! They sure fucking did... Damn. bravenak Dec 2014 #40
Ha ha polite and reasonable people Kalidurga Dec 2014 #18
I do that too. bravenak Dec 2014 #41
exactly don't step on my feet and I don't step on yours well maybe cuz I am a clutz... Kalidurga Dec 2014 #42
So ignore them. For those of us babylonsister Dec 2014 #16
The dismissiveness on the subject of cultural appropriation today ... kwassa Dec 2014 #19
You lost me. babylonsister Dec 2014 #23
Some here think they know it all. n/t WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2014 #20
Not me. babylonsister Dec 2014 #22
If you don't mind, I started putting together an essay on the subject yesterday to explain it MrScorpio Dec 2014 #25
Not at all. Let me know/flag me? nt babylonsister Dec 2014 #29
You bet. MrScorpio Dec 2014 #36
I didn't know either, Babs. It was on the front page, and I responded to ... Hekate Dec 2014 #30
That's the main problem on this board regarding most topics. tammywammy Dec 2014 #31
I look at it this way MrScorpio Dec 2014 #24
I think these discussions are an extention upaloopa Dec 2014 #27
I won't even dare to think I know what it's like to be Black Gman Dec 2014 #32
"Don't see color" is a bull shit phrase. tammywammy Dec 2014 #34
"I don't see color" is often viewed as the calling card of the "politely" racist Number23 Dec 2014 #38
I work with a black woman babylonsister Dec 2014 #35
Yes...fuck them. nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #37
you want I should kick some un-enlightened ass, BronxBoy? Skittles Dec 2014 #43
50 years heaven05 Dec 2014 #44

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
1. Me too!
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:21 PM
Dec 2014

It's shocking that they think they can engage in polite bigotry then play all innocent - then wonder why I'm looking for the garbage truck. Amazing!

They aren't very street smart.

brush

(53,776 posts)
2. It's starting to get out of hand all right
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:23 PM
Dec 2014

I didn't know about the "black man to ape comparison at all (is there a link), but the recent "black women's hair thread was also out of bounds.

I'm starting to wonder about this site and the lack of action taken by the admin. to weed these kind of posts out.

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
4. It was in one of the threads
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:38 PM
Dec 2014

About that racist Michael Brown song sung at the police retirement party. Said referencing King Kong was not racist

Talk about a disconnect

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
17. Please tell me that didn't happen here.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 11:58 PM
Dec 2014

I did not read it, yet I know it did.

Admins gotta understand that DU has now become DI and that has got to change, cause people are leaving here rapidly, I am getting tired of saying goodbye to people I respect, BronxBoy.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
28. Good Gods, she
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:14 AM
Dec 2014

I think DU is on its way to becoming segregated into little "safe houses": BOG, AA, HOF, and the like, where hatefulness is not allowed. Other than that, what's to be done about DU's descent into a cesspit?

Response to brush (Reply #2)

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
11. Looks like I missed a live one...
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:51 PM
Dec 2014

A thread about Black women's hair on a predominantly White board is destined for failure

Spoken by a Black man who had the scars of innocently getting in the way of sistas and their hair

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
3. If so... can you explain it ( the demographics of DU) to the rest of us?
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:35 PM
Dec 2014

I'm not sure that someone who "doesn't think that complaining a Black man to an ape" is racist is much of a "demographic".

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
10. Oooops.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:48 PM
Dec 2014

That's " COMPARING a black man....". ( I'm using a loaner computer. Can't cut and paste yet.)

But the ball is still in your court, I do believe.

How does that comprise a "demographic?"

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
12. Still don't understand your question..,
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:53 PM
Dec 2014

DU is predominantly White and only on a predominantly White site would such a thought be not only expressed but fairly unchallenged

 

NewDeal_Dem

(1,049 posts)
33. what relevance does her DU name have to do with the question she asked? why the unwarranted
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:38 AM
Dec 2014

snarkiness?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
5. Polite racists are the bane of my existence.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:39 PM
Dec 2014

Give me a good old fashioned vocal racist over that any day. Least I know where I stand with them.

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
8. Ditto the condescending ones...
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:46 PM
Dec 2014

Shit. Engage me in conversation if you wNt insight unto our community.

The line that kills me is "So you speAk for the whole Black community?"

Often coming in the heels of a post purporting to know all about our community

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
9. I hate the ones that try to teach us how to protest properly.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:48 PM
Dec 2014

Anything to keep themselves from being made 'uncomfortable'.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. No shit. It's like they're claiming their way is "more civilized".....
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 11:42 PM
Dec 2014

My ancestors protested by shooting arrows at them.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
15. I wish they had shot fire arrows at the ships sometimes.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 11:47 PM
Dec 2014

If i could time travel I'd take some second amendment materials to help the people against those 'illegal immigrants'. A few thousand AR15's and a crap load of ammo would do the trick.
The Boston Tea Party didn't look very civilized to me. Wasted all that tea. Then they tore up their own neighborhoods with their little 'rebellion'.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
18. Ha ha polite and reasonable people
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 11:58 PM
Dec 2014

I have on more than one occasion gone off on a polite and reasonable person. They were politely infringing on my common sense or politely insulting me doesn't matter either way I am going to go off. You should see the look on their face when I do that. Nothing but pure shock and they spit and sputter trying to defend themselves then they say "let's be reasonable here" meaning that they think being insulting is a reasonable position and I am being unreasonable for the audacity to stand up for myself, no thanks you can have your "reason", I will keep my fire.

I have seen this played out many many times in my life where someone is politely racist, sexist, classist, or homophobic. It's time to be impolitely vocal and call them out loudly and obnoxiously, clown on them if you wish. I will laugh my butt off when that happens, I know cuz I have seen it and that was what I did.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
41. I do that too.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 04:39 AM
Dec 2014

I also cuss out people who say ' no disrespect...', then proceed to disrepect me.
It is definately time to never shut the fuck up. If we gotta be uncomfortable for no good reason , then they can be uncomfortable for making me uncomfortable.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
42. exactly don't step on my feet and I don't step on yours well maybe cuz I am a clutz...
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 04:43 AM
Dec 2014

but, not on purpose. I used to work in a warehouse so the looks I would get and sometimes the attitude. Not from the guys I worked with at least rarely anyway, most the time like 99.999% of the time they were cool. Mostly a very progressive group. But, sheesh some of the stuff people from other departments would do and say. My boss also cool he didn't get on me too much about my mouth. He mostly just shook his head. He laughed when another manager suggested that he should control me better.

babylonsister

(171,060 posts)
16. So ignore them. For those of us
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 11:49 PM
Dec 2014

who respect everyone, that's why I'm here. I don't give a fig what color you are. Make sense, and you make me better.

Teach me if I need it, don't scold.

We're all here to learn.

Ha! Most of us!

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
19. The dismissiveness on the subject of cultural appropriation today ...
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 11:59 PM
Dec 2014

was quite astonishing to me.

So many on DU were in such extreme denial about it made it very clear to me that this is another place where white DU doesn't know this information at all. It is like the white privilege discussions, starting from scratch.

babylonsister

(171,060 posts)
23. You lost me.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:34 AM
Dec 2014

What are us white people on DU missing about 'cultural appropriation', and what does that mean?

Me, I treat people as they treat me. I don't care the color, just the quality. It's a good thing!

babylonsister

(171,060 posts)
22. Not me.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:30 AM
Dec 2014

And I had no idea I was in the AA forum.

Damn.

I'm good, I think. Let me know if I'm not, and why.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
25. If you don't mind, I started putting together an essay on the subject yesterday to explain it
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:42 AM
Dec 2014

I'm not even close to finishing it yet AND I have a lot of other important shit to do before I can.

So, if you're willing to wait, hopefully it'll explain things more clearly.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
36. You bet.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:15 AM
Dec 2014

I'm in the midst of making raspberry cheesecake cupcakes at this very moment, for a family holiday dinner tomorrow.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
30. I didn't know either, Babs. It was on the front page, and I responded to ...
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:23 AM
Dec 2014

....a post by sheshe.

In it I posited that DU (which she said was turning into DI) was becoming a series of "safe houses" like the BOG and AA. Then it turned out I'm in someone else's safe house.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
31. That's the main problem on this board regarding most topics.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:26 AM
Dec 2014

The know it alls, failure to read critically and sometimes to just shut the hell up.

I'm a white woman, I don't dare pretend I know at all what is like to grow up as a minority or face discrimination or be worried I'm gonna get shot by the cops walking down the street. The hair thread was beyond disgusting. And any poster that discusses "white culture" without the use of sarcasm is...well not something I can say out loud.

I really wonder if these people live and work in some white enclave and have never had friends of color?

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
24. I look at it this way
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:39 AM
Dec 2014

Racist motherfuckers can't help themselves. They sign up here, spew their BS, only to get tossed out on their ass after couple of posts, all for what?

They're a bunch of hostile assholes who get off on the attention. Basically, they're small minded morons who have no ide how stupid and racist they are.

Guess what… In the big picture, they don't matter.

So fuck 'em.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
27. I think these discussions are an extention
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:57 AM
Dec 2014

of the food fights that are popular on this board. The mechanics are the same but the topics differ.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
32. I won't even dare to think I know what it's like to be Black
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:33 AM
Dec 2014

But I have enough Black friends that I can empathize. Unfortunately I'll never know.

That said, I have a couple or so pet peeves. One is whites calling each other the N word. I've blurted out shut up, its pissed me off so badly.

Another is white liberals, in demonstrating how open snd liberal they are saying when they look at a person they "don't see color". More than a few here at DU say it. I think to do so denies who that person is and where they came from, their family and heritage. I think it's insulting.

As for cultural appropriation, in everyday life, it's a white person's sad attempt to be cool. In a way I guess it is a bit of flattery if it's true that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But it also ignores everything else that goes with being Black. And it makes the white person look foolish.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
34. "Don't see color" is a bull shit phrase.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:42 AM
Dec 2014

The importance of diversity is trying to understand differences and most importantly respecting them. So called ignoring color, is to ignore the basic differences we all have from each other, including not just race, but it extends to class and sex as well.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
38. "I don't see color" is often viewed as the calling card of the "politely" racist
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:41 AM
Dec 2014

And they are the worst. Because they DO see color. EVERYONE sees color and to pretend otherwise is just incredibly stupid.

As a black woman, I WANT people to see my color. I am proud to be black. What I don't want is all of the bullshit judgements, stereotypes and pre-judgings that come with it.

babylonsister

(171,060 posts)
35. I work with a black woman
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:53 AM
Dec 2014

and don't see color or let her color affect me. All I see is a great worker who's been there longer than I have, a woman who helps me when I need it, a caring mom, a good wife, and a great woman.
Sometimes color is irrelevant.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
44. 50 years
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:17 AM
Dec 2014

Last edited Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:14 PM - Edit history (1)

of dealing with the same thing that, 75 years ago my parents were dealing with that, 100 years ago my grandparents were dealing with that 150 years ago my recently released from slavery ancestors were dealing with............ This country......... geez

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