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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:02 PM Jun 2015

go to yahoo news today..an article from vox.com june7

Last edited Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:42 PM - Edit history (2)

about serena williams. perfect description of worldwide racist attitudes that are only getting worse. disgusting comments coming from the 'privileged' class. this shit will never stop!! on edit:the serena williams story is on vox.com june 7...i'm sorry i did not make that clear. it's gone from yahoo and no archive.

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go to yahoo news today..an article from vox.com june7 (Original Post) heaven05 Jun 2015 OP
I get depressed when I read comments from that place. MADem Jun 2015 #1
saddened, yes heaven05 Jun 2015 #3
I agree that those comments are disgusting tymorial Jun 2015 #2
a culture born and bred heaven05 Jun 2015 #4
Can't bring myself to go. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #5
In all truth heaven05 Jun 2015 #6
I will never understand the hate marym625 Jun 2015 #7
thanks and so true heaven05 Jun 2015 #8
Thank you, Heaven marym625 Jun 2015 #11
when you want to heaven05 Jun 2015 #14
Someone had it linked the other day marym625 Jun 2015 #15
I don't know heaven05 Jun 2015 #16
I was searching all over for it last night marym625 Jun 2015 #19
yep heaven05 Jun 2015 #21
I know that part of it is the anonymity. PART of it. marym625 Jun 2015 #22
I don't know the answer heaven05 Jun 2015 #23
Bravo! marym625 Jun 2015 #24
Just read the most AMAZING Vox story about Serena and the hate she's received her entire career Number23 Jun 2015 #9
+1000 heaven05 Jun 2015 #10
Better yet, everyone should get Richard Williams' book. Seriously, it is outstanding. What he went Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2015 #18
I remember when we heaven05 Jun 2015 #25
"(Remember the mocking?)" YES!! Serena may have decided to overlook that bit of Number23 Jun 2015 #26
I have to give you props Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #12
yeah i hear you heaven05 Jun 2015 #13
Psychological discomfort from white folk who can't stand seeing black folk dominate and win. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2015 #17
true heaven05 Jun 2015 #20
the racists who complain about welfare queens and blacks needing to help themselves and the usual JI7 Jun 2015 #27

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. I get depressed when I read comments from that place.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jun 2015

I am saddened to see there are that many stupid people in the world.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. saddened, yes
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Tue Jun 9, 2015, 10:53 AM - Edit history (4)

and enraged at the 'privileged class' arrogance and extreme willful hate shown by alleged civilized people at minorities. I listen to the fox snoozer, and watch the one with badge and gun, or 'neighborhood watch' authority and I know they will KILL you outright for the smallest infraction or perceived 'threat'.. 'gwlauren' has an OP that is confirmed by that article at yahoo from vox.com june 7. Serena is RICH. That does not stop her being called a n..... to her face at her tennis matches, or being described as an animal by many on social media and MSM. Totally hateful. God!! I'm getting sick and tired of being sick and tired of this class of racist pigs! Disgusting human waste...

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
2. I agree that those comments are disgusting
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jun 2015

I take solace in one thing... it is human nature to comment on the negative while remaining silent on the positive. It is why complaints against service and products always outnumber positive review. People expect to be pleased and therefore when they are pleased they do not go out of their way to state as such. I hope that the hate speech we see so often comes from this aspect of humanity and isn't representative of the culture as a whole; even among conservatives with whom I disagree politically on a daily basis. I of course could be wrong and could be fooling myself.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. a culture born and bred
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jun 2015

on native-american genocide and on the blood and bones of hundreds of thousands of African slaves. This culture is systemically infected with a myriad of social disease(s) concerning race FIRST, followed by the economic greed of the 'privileged class'.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
5. Can't bring myself to go.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:48 PM
Jun 2015

I've been there, I think once, or maybe it was AOL, and the hate dripping from the words was painful.

I think I expected more of DU. And I find myself retreating from that space as well.

Eventually, I will just stick to Facebook. I feel like a chicken, but I'm too old for this sh*t, and the fight has gone out of me as I have aged.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
6. In all truth
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jun 2015

I feel ya! Yet, don't expect much and you will be backed up by people who respect and try to have your back. I've been in this war since the 60's. We always, no matter the group, had people whose ego overrode sound reason, such as found in your OP. I am getting sick of people, good people, getting run off by the ego cliques here. They will have to ban me, which has become an art form here, to shut me up. Hope you don't go, but understand why. Yeah I'm losing my resolve to keep engaging with willfully hateful and obtuse people yet am heartened by the many principled people here in the AA forum specifically and sometime DU in general. Whatever your choice, good luck

marym625

(17,997 posts)
7. I will never understand the hate
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 02:46 PM
Jun 2015

I don't care if someone is hiding behind a keyboard, with or without a pseudonym. How such hateful things can come from human beings is beyond me.

Reminds me of the lyrics to Mackelmore's Same Love


Have you read the YouTube comments lately?
"Man, that's gay" gets dropped on the daily
We become so numb to what we're saying
A culture founded from oppression
Yet we don't have acceptance for 'em
Call each other faggots behind the keys of a message board
A word rooted in hate, yet our genre still ignores it
Gay is synonymous with the lesser
It's the same hate that's caused wars from religion
Gender to skin color, the complexion of your pigment
The same fight that led people to walk outs and sit ins
It's human rights for everybody, there is no difference!
Live on and be yourself
When I was at church they taught me something else
If you preach hate at the service those words aren't anointed
That holy water that you soak in has been poisoned
When everyone else is more comfortable remaining voiceless
Rather than fighting for humans that have had their rights stolen
I might not be the same, but that's not important
No freedom 'til we're equal, damn right I support it


I know this is about marriage equality, but it's true of so many things. Minorities in general.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
14. when you want to
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:18 PM
Jun 2015

the serena piece is gone from yahooo, it's at vox.com june 7 I never made that clear, sorry.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
15. Someone had it linked the other day
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jun 2015

I saw it before I saw your post. Or maybe I just saw it when I was on yahoo.

Did they take it down because of the comments?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
16. I don't know
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:31 AM
Jun 2015

I default to their news when I log out yahoo mail. I just stumbled on the serena article. Yahoo news is, to me, too RW to take seriously.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
19. I was searching all over for it last night
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:58 AM
Jun 2015

I think I did exactly what you did. I have a yahoo email and the news pops up when I go to log on.

I like to be able to comment on articles and songs, etc. But I think that the comment sections should just be turned off. It is very seldom anything is gained from them. There are enough places people can spread their hate

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
21. yep
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:23 AM
Jun 2015

plenty of places and I'm past being shocked. These last 6+ years have shown me just how much real racial hate is bubbling in "the melting pot". Only people like some of us here and other places can keep trying to point out the fact of dangerous heat under that pot....sometimes it seems a lost cause

marym625

(17,997 posts)
22. I know that part of it is the anonymity. PART of it.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:42 AM
Jun 2015

Some of the people just say these awful things for the attention and probably would never speak that way in person. But just some.

I believe that there are kids out there that see so much hate they become immune to the reality of the hurt and damage caused by it. We're creating a world of hate.

I don't know what the answer is. I abhor censorship. But if comments weren't allowed at all, maybe we would have a fighting chance. Before the Internet, if you read something in the newspaper, the best you could do to voice your opinion is to write the editor. Speak out to your friends. If comments weren't allowed, there are still multiple ways to state your views through social media. Maybe if you couldn't just state hate on the article directly, there would be a decrease in it.

I don't know. I just wish it would stop.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
23. I don't know the answer
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:57 AM
Jun 2015

either. I just know I must respond to it, no matter how slickly phrased or couched. No other choice but to keep up the good fight...there is our victory for our forces...end hate, homelessness, hunger and inequality is my purpose now till I die. NO other choice, really or I become one of those depressing statistics. Just can't let it happen.....

marym625

(17,997 posts)
24. Bravo!
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 10:10 AM
Jun 2015

We have to fight the good fight! Good for you. You are leading and people will follow your example.




As an aside, too bad there's not a word for inequality that starts with an "h"

Number23

(24,544 posts)
9. Just read the most AMAZING Vox story about Serena and the hate she's received her entire career
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.vox.com/2015/3/11/8189679/serena-williams-indian-wells-racism

I highly suggest reading it. It was amazing. Vox seems to be covering some really interesting stories lately.

Serena was on the cover of Vogue a few months ago and if you read the article, half of it was devoted to her little stupid blonde "friend" Caroline Wozniacki. They even gave Caroline a huge SOLO photo in SERENA'S cover story.

Now, according to DU, we're not supposed to care about this because Serena is richer than Midas. But we do. And we will. Because this is a real story of racism that ain't got shit to do with class. It's similar in that way to the VAST MAJORITY of stories about racism.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. +1000
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:53 PM
Jun 2015

and, I know of it, the story of white hate against this woman. It just puts to rest the obfuscatory bullshit of economic equality squelching white racism.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
18. Better yet, everyone should get Richard Williams' book. Seriously, it is outstanding. What he went
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:50 AM
Jun 2015

through as a child growing up in Louisiana, his mother and siblings, the hate they endured, etc. This man is a fighter, and the book really puts into perspective why Serena, Venus and their siblings are the winners they are despite the hate.

Serena is one of my heroines for sure.

Growing up a dark-skinned girl, being told you're ugly and undesirable, dumb, never good enough, etc. I totally get it. All that's supposed to not matter when one gets a few coins? I would argue that often it's worse, especially being in the spotlight!

But then sometimes I look at Serena and see that she succumbs to European standards of beauty but how could she not? Again, being told that you don't fit, your beauty being passed over for blondes in magazines. I understand why it is inevitable that she has white friends, but the way that some of the women who she calls friends treat her behind her back. (Remember the mocking?)

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
25. I remember when we
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 10:34 AM
Jun 2015

'fried and conked' our hair to straighten it to try to adhere to euro standards of beauty. Then afro's appeared to counter ideals of euro beauty standards and mine was leaping! Over a foot long Then the shift went back to euro standards by POC, especially celebs who are trying to 'appeal' to a wider audience. Can't be helped there, I guess. But I am seeing more and more afros again. That statement of independence IS a good thing among young people. I'm basically bald now or my grey hair would be leaping again..

Well keep fighting, that is the victory.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
26. "(Remember the mocking?)" YES!! Serena may have decided to overlook that bit of
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:18 PM
Jun 2015

fuckwittery and forgive Caroline, but I never will. That's why I referred to Caroline as Serena's stupid little blonde "friend."

The Vox story even talks about how problematic Caroline's little "prank" was, mocking Serena's absolutely ASTONISHING body. She can't pretend to be Serena by waxing the floor with her opponents so she decided to mock her body, particularly her bust and behind. A writer from Ms. magazine in the Vox piece talks about how inappropriate and yes, racist, that crap was.

That little prank is the reason I've got absolutely no interest in Wozniacki or that punk Novak Djochovich. He did the same thing, mocking Serena's body. Every time he plays somebody, I cheer for the other person and it makes absolutely no difference who it is.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
12. I have to give you props
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:42 PM
Jun 2015

for being able to stomach what comes out of that dungeon known as the Yahoo! comments section. They're on par with the YouTube comments. Nothing about them surprises me anymore after being there for a while and hearing what they say about Pres. O and their countless generalizations of poor people.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
13. yeah i hear you
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:50 PM
Jun 2015

my yahoo mail defaults to their news when I log off. I just stumbled on that article. I never stay and read their garbage. I was truly surprised to see it was there vox.com june7 is where they picked it up..worth a read. I think.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
17. Psychological discomfort from white folk who can't stand seeing black folk dominate and win.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:42 AM
Jun 2015

No different than how President Obama has been treated. No difference at all.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
20. true
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:02 AM
Jun 2015

the woman crying on MSM the night of the last election crying and snotting all over the place screaming, "we want our country back" told me all I needed to know of what was upcoming from the 'privileged' class here and in the general society. Has been a revealing and disgusting 6+ years of revelation of what this democracy really stands for.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
27. the racists who complain about welfare queens and blacks needing to help themselves and the usual
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:48 AM
Jun 2015

shit hate black people who are able to show they are successful even more. especially black women which is why you see beyonce, serena williams, oprah etc brought up all the time.

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