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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
Wed May 30, 2012, 07:00 PM May 2012

Does it bother you that ...

when seeking the academically definitive word on Catholics, as a cultural group, one looks to St. Johns, Notre Dame, Steton Hall, or Catholic University; when seeking the academically definitive word on peoples of the Jewish faith, as a cultural group, one looks to Yeshiva University; or when seeking the academically definitive word on Mormonism, one looks to Brigham Young University.

But when one is seeking the academically definitive word on African-Americans, one looks to Princeton or Harvard or U of Pennsylvania; not Howard or Morehouse, or Spelman.

I, once, engaged a "prominent Black intellectual" college professor with a penchant for proclaiming his love for all things Black, in the above question. Adding that if all or even several of the "Black Intellectuals" where to join the faculty of one of the HBCUs, it would immediately gain stature and the reputation as the African_American Intellectual Center of the U.S.

His much shortened response ... "Princeton has a better endowment fund", followed by a long-winded "F/U for questioning my integrity and/or commitment."

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Does it bother you that ... (Original Post) 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 OP
Conflating ethnic/cultural groups with religious traditions… Jackpine Radical May 2012 #1
You are correct ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #3
I wasn't being serious about the Scandinavian business. Jackpine Radical May 2012 #7
You make an excellent point. Howard is a great school. Am white and my brother southernyankeebelle May 2012 #2
An interesting point ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #4
When my brother was there he never felt any backlash of any type. Our parents southernyankeebelle May 2012 #6
The HBCU are a bit of an anomaly ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #5

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. Conflating ethnic/cultural groups with religious traditions…
Wed May 30, 2012, 07:03 PM
May 2012

Leads me to ask, What have we Scandinavians got? The University of Minnesota?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. You are correct ...
Wed May 30, 2012, 07:43 PM
May 2012

I editted out the religion part.

With respect to what about Scandinavians, if you are serious in the question, I don't know that there is much demand for studies that query the disproportionate effects of a particular or group of policies on Scandinavians. Nor, am I aware of any great demand for commentary regarding the perceptions of, or about, Scandinavains.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
7. I wasn't being serious about the Scandinavian business.
Wed May 30, 2012, 09:19 PM
May 2012

Not even Scandinavians care much about Scandinavians.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
2. You make an excellent point. Howard is a great school. Am white and my brother
Wed May 30, 2012, 07:28 PM
May 2012

went there for a short time before he dropped out. He liked the school. He realized he wasn't made to go to college. You make a excellent point.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
4. An interesting point ...
Wed May 30, 2012, 07:46 PM
May 2012

It is my understanding that white folks have always attended, and were never barred by law or custom from attending HBCUs.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
6. When my brother was there he never felt any backlash of any type. Our parents
Wed May 30, 2012, 08:45 PM
May 2012

really did teach us that color didn't matter. He didn't. He did marry and African-American girl. They were married about 7 yrs. My brother died at the age of 39 of lung cancer. She really had a hard time. Young widow and she just couldn't come around us because it reminded her of her husband. She moved away. We never did hear from her. My sister saw her onces and she was happy to see her. But she has to make the moves. We did all we can. We wish her the best.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
5. The HBCU are a bit of an anomaly
Wed May 30, 2012, 08:06 PM
May 2012

They are somewhat marginalized in academia, clearly not considered top schools. That flows over into the perception of graduates, regardless of race.

From the "prominent Black intellectual perspective, if they went there, they would lose their uniqueness and many of their perks, real or perceived, including media interviews. By asking what you did, I can believe you pissed him off.

Additionally the black community has never lacked for spokespersons that provide good media material whether its Farrakhan, Jackson, Sharpton, or Winchell.

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