I won't post them, but we all know what they are.

You know I post a lot of images. When I look for them sometimes I feel physically ill.

The images of Obama, Michelle and their beautiful girls breaks my heart. Beyond ugly and total racist shit!

Yet the white man tell us it is over!

Huge majority and I was with him all the way. They had a magnificent organized strategy. They had feet on the ground. I read and watched everything back then. You could see it, you could feel it. I knew for a fact he would win both times.

Yes, it could be beaten down with a majority, yet racists are the majority. Electing Obama doesn't negate that. So where is the majority in which you speak? Where the hell are they?

The President was dumped days after the first election. They said yay!!! We voted for you! Go do it, then they left him to do it on his own. That is not how it works. If you are disappointed in this President, then you have to except some blame. Your expectations were far to high for what one man could achieve.



He never said I, he said We.

~or~ when folks felt it wasn't important enough to get off their carcass and vote.......look what we got.

We failed as a party. We, as black Americans also played a role. We also get hung up in bs religious issues like marriage equality, gays in the military and abortion rights as excuses to not support a Democrat or sit out the vote.

I wish I had $$ for every (religious black person who VOTED in 2008) I know in my neck of the woods who said they couldn't get behind POTUS for at least one the reasons I listed, I'd be rich. There was NO swaying them away from their precious beliefs.

Then there are the ones who were content with 08 results and went back to whatever..

The racist rednecks and bigots came out in droves and we got what we deserved in 14.

He won my state in 08. And lost it in 2012 because of laziness? apathy? disillusionment? disenfranchisement? disgust? religious nuttery?

In 2014 - it was awash. We failed. We ALL failed.

There's a whole lot of blame to go around. Tons.

And I disagree, racist are certainly not the majority. It's the emptiest vessels that make the most noise.

so there is no reason it need always exist. It is not human nature. It is learned behavior.

Showed a preference from one type of person over another?

Perhaps they never openly admitted it but I'm sure it existed. Why? Because we are human and most definitely imperfect.

The choice is whether they act on their feeling or if they chose to ignore the differences.

I said RACISM has not always existed. It is not innate. Racism emerged in conjunction with transatlantic slavery. People certainly had prejudices before then, generally based on religion, however. This is well established by historians. See, for example, Racism: A Short History, by George Fredrickson.

I remember someone saying racism is like a disease........it really does seem that way.

Anyway, I understand what you're saying now.

toward another based on a difference between them.

It is institutionalized and societal degradation of one group at the hands of another.

So no, racism surely has not always existed nor does it have to.

Bigotry, probably has always existed, not sure.

When one realizes why a Black person in America cant be a racist, one will be halfway there.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Safe haven groups should not be abused to post outright smears of a candidate in a place where they can not be challenged. This post is an outright smear, the quote it is centered around is taken so far out of context that it gives it a completely different meaning.

The full quote from Bernie is "The African American community is very proud that this country has overcome racism and voted for him for President". Viewed in its full context it is clear that Sanders was referring to overcoming racism in a single event and that is the election of Obama. The headline leaves the impression that Sanders said this country has overcome racism in general which is clearly not what he meant.

This attempt to smear a candidate with an out of context quote should not be allowed on DU, especially not in a safe haven where people don't feel like they can respond to correct the record.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jul 8, 2015, 07:21 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

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Explanation: I'm generally in agreement with the poster on most things, but in this case I have to agree with the alert - the post is disruptive, distorts the quote deliberately, and misrepresents the candidate; those are tactics more appropriate on RW boards.
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Sad, their voice is silenced here. All you have to is read. Why would those that support Bernie do that?

It is happening in this forum. Why should AfAm be targeted?

They want to be heard. AfAm are leaving this Democratic Board. No one is listening to them. I am white, I am an ally. I support them.

All you, me or anyone else can do is check them and call out the bs. Probably risk getting a hide but to remain silent is complacency.

I sure hope so.

But I try to make a comment when I do.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

"disruptive" if you one doesn't like what Bernie said out.. in the open.

To Juror#7.. Thank you!

Thanks, she.. the alert police on the prowl.. ya made it by a squeaker!

shite to the frothing Racists. It only meant they came out from under their rocks and start struttin' around with their damn confederate flags and stupid ugly racist bile spewing from their idiotic mouths.

Yeah, Bernie was wrong.. but "it's not about him".. it's about our Black Community's Voices being heard and not silenced.

From what I've seen our Black Brothers and Sisters don't think "hating wall street is going to help racism"..

There are quite a few tweets schooling Sanders at the link.. I know if I posted any they would be alerted on and a very bad chance I would get a hide.. they are pissed! And, they don't put Sen Sanders in the best light..

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/07/07/berningbridges-ht-only4rm/

mahalo for your OP, she.. glad it didn't get a hide like they wanted.

that Bernie and his supporters are tone-deaf on this issue, and doubling down. It is a disgrace that AfAm voices are being denied a hearing on this site.

Thanks for the thread, sheshe.

A DUer named Chovexani said after the 2008 election, now white America is really going to see how crazy racist the US is. Even I doubted her a bit at the time, thinking that the election would be fresh winds at our backs. Boy, was she right.

And thanks to the Clintons, race was in your face.

I canvassed everywhere during the primaries, and white people lost their fucking minds over this black guy.

There were enough truly progressive white voters who joined with black and Latino voters to get President Obama elected. But it did take a sizeable number of whites.

The majority of white people DID NOT vote for Barack Obama, but enough did.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/exit-polls.html

That's very shameful that white people were losing their minds over Obama--I've read that majority white Democratic counties in several states have had lower turnout for him in subsequent elections too.

I have a hard time believing that is due to being too left wing to support the Black President, as Sanders' seems to imply in his words up there, and I've read here over the years.

BULLSHIT, Bernie!

Again, putting class before race.

We've 'overcome' racism? What the fuck?!?!?!?

I assume so that umm other more important issues could be addressed and to ensure one did not rock the boat or threaten a win...

Kicking, all our. Issues should be important, who gets to decide one is more important than the other?

Huge sigh here, I'm listening....

And that mirrors a lot of his supporters here. Doubly so on those who want to come here to squelch discussion of it here, as they have in GD. Can't stop them from shooting themselves in the feet.

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I was a doubter, but now I am convinced that Bernie is the best candidate out there for PoC. Everyone will get free healthcare, free college education and a living wage!

I'm certain, and will just trust, he and his supporters, will get around to addressing the police brutality and industrial waste in our communities (that lead us to require more healthcare attention than the national mean) and the sub-standard education provided in our communities (in order to qualify us for college and the lack of call-backs for that job that pays that living wage.

So just have faith!

Signed,

1DocileBlackMan

1DocileBlackMan



Like hell you are, or could ever be. Keep up the good fight. Yes, I saw the latest attempt to shut you down.

I'm having a ball.

making me ill, LOL. It's an Orwellian, dystopian, bleak bleak corporatist future ....and Hillary is the one who wants to precious ring, amiright?

So over the fantasy movie gifs around here. :ducks:

He seems completely oblivious to what he is implying. First, he says AA are proud that Obama was elected president. If I recall a lot of people were pretty fucking proud at the time. In the next part he's chastising the AA community by saying you shouldn't base your politics on color. Who else is he referring to? Not the white working class people, who he implies are the only working class people by saying the democrats haven't made it clear they stand with them. Who else could he be referring to but white middle class because in his mind the AA community will vote based on color.

I don't think he meant it this way, but I also think he doesn't realize how all this sounds to people who don't already know him well. Lots of white people with little experience discussing these issues with POC to keep them in check will often make the same kind of mistakes.

Thanks for including the entire sentence, so that we know what he was actually saying was that the country 'overcame racism' in electing President Obama, not in the sense the racism no longer exists.

(ETA: just saw the alert results upthread saying pretty much the same thing. I was not the alerter.)

you'd kind of get the impression he is more concerned about - what were people here calling it- the Atwater strategy?- then actual black lives being destroyed in 2015.
He talks about college when their primary and high schools are underfunded shit holes. He says racism was defeated with Obamas victory but doesn't seem to have noticed the backlash of violent and bigoted behavior.
Maybe it's because he thinks nothing can be done, but he invokes race issues in a highly selective way that ignores a great deal.