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being one reason some whites ignore the "black lives matter" movement.

I won't mention any name but he/she claims to be on our side.

that's all I'll say...about that poster....

In Letter From a Birmingham Jail. That too many white people are complacent, and that's why we haven't addressed our problems.

In the 1960's, we were not "angry". We were peacefully demonstrating.

What we see now is anger, and the "Establishment" does not handle this well.

So, I think our "allies" need to be educated to see that our anger is justified, and appropriate, and needs to be alleviated by positive action.

The Baltimore situation is an interesting example. The peaceful demonstrations DID NOT WORK. They got no press. Ten thousand people, and they got no press. But when a relative few youths did some property damage, (looted, went wild, whatever you want to call it), not only was there press coverage, there was a POSITIVE RESPONSE. Cops got arrested. There was also a negative response. They called the National Guard, and there was a curfew, which businesses like night clubs and bars fought like crazy. But the positive response is noteworthy, because it sends a message. Violence gets our nation's attention.

I have some white friends who see the anger as justified. They consider what we've been put through, and they say "I too would be angry." So, this is the education we need to give. We have every right to be angry, and we have every right to express our anger, especially in non-violent ways. We have good reason for pushing the envelope, good reason for yelling, good reason for gathering, and maybe our numbers are intimidating (lots of white people aren't used to more than 10% of us...).

So, perhaps we must ask white people - are you REALLY our allies? Because if you are, then you respect our anger. If you only side with us when we are passive, if you only side with us when we are submissive, if you only side with us when you can be "benevolent", noble (nobility!) and otherwise 1st class helping second class, then you are not "allies" because you do not see us as equal. So check yourselves, white people. And black people, put white people on notice. Anyone who can't respect our anger isn't an ally.

I agree

Yes, that is true, but there is a caveat to that.

It is one thing to trash property. Property can be rebuilt, and indeed, if the middle class in the majority realizes wall street is trying to profit in the process, that can clear the air, however, the problem with violence is that it is easy to escalate.

The example I am about to give is not going to value one life over another, but you know if some white person was killed, even in an accidental way, the media would make sure that person's life would have mattered, to the point where every time discussion came up, the bigots would use that death to justify more violence. I apologize if that offended, but you know that is what the media would do, because that would sell. Never mind if this person was firmly to the left of Cornell West, and was turning over in his or her grave like a steam turbine because Fox news is using them. and, do not get this wrong, that person;s life cannot, and should not, be valued over the black innocent killed by cop. But you know the powers that be would make damned sure it did.

Black lives matter, white lives matter more.

I have always been amused that the majority of episodes of Criminal Intent (a TV show in which the FBI goes after a serial killer) feature serial killers who go after blond women, blond children or just white people in general. White lives matter.

is making sure even the first AA president elected is someone that will always try to make you feel comfortable, even as you spit in his face and plan to go "see, you shoulda voted for Hillary in 2008!"

It also means getting to always blame the black and browns, because even if you are someone on the fringe who the rest of White America laughs at, or hates, like those on the far left, you can still get more respect than the black people.

ugly, and true.

Though as a PS: Kudos to the Hillary campaign for making people focus on the one guy that supported Jesse Jackson for president, and keeping it away from the one woman that has not apologized for her husband blowing every Racist dog whistle back in 2008. Not saying Sanders should not have prepared much better, as he was going to try and fly the left standard, but Hillary's silence is as loud as a bomb, and while she is my only choice to keep a republican out of the white house, I have no faith that she will ever speak up once she is in office either.

yet, yes if forced to, I will have to give her my vote to try to keep the the racist fascists out of office. I agree completely with all you said/wrote.

I do appreciate that.