Anyone, and I mean ANYONE that doesn't think that #BLM will not disrupt Hillary is as stupid as they
come. #BLM has disrupted Sanders and O'Malley. They were both abysmal. Sanders has been hit again and performed poorly -- again.
Hillary, being the tactical political beast that she is, is watching all of this shit. And her RACIALLY DIVERSE team and staff is watching all of this as well.
When -- not if, WHEN -- she gets hit by #BLM, what are the chances she'll be like this??
And what are the chances that Hillary supporters will then swarm the Internet screaming about all Hillary's "done for us" when they're not calling #BLM thugs and right wing operatives?
I want #BLM to protest Hilary and everyone else for a number of reasons. And I'm willing to bet everything in my pocket right now that when it does happen, she won't storm off the stage, she won't whine "why me, when I've done so much for you people?" or bring up shit that happened before everyone in the room was even alive.
What I'm betting she will do is adopt a classic Chuck Woolery "listening closely" stance and give these folks the time and attention that they want -- and deserve. She will then reap all the benefits from doing so -- perhaps her approval will go to 100% in the black community instead of the mere 85% that it is now -- and moonwalk her way to the freaking White House.
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after he realized that giving them the mic was not going to stop the protest. They had no intention of giving it back. But go ahead and pretend that Hillary would have handled it better. 
graced this forum with your appearance before today. 
I don't care about you or others disagreeing with me. It's WHAT you choose to disagree with me over, as if a white person is in ANY damn position to tell a black person what they should or should not think re: matters of race.
Since you've not seen fit to come here before, if you choose to trash the forum and not come back, I don't think anyone here will lose any sleep over it.
Be funny as hell if Ralph sent her in to create a little chaos so he could snap up those disaffected supporters and clear a path for himself!
for the irony-impaired, though I'd put nothing past his mega-ego!
I lean towards Bernie, and I would like to see such statements as you suggest in response to #BLM disruptions as well. I don't think he has handled it as horribly as some others seem to feel (perception/perspective is everything, yes?), but he absolutely, positively can do much better.
He's an older white man with what appears to be other white men as his main staffers. He has a steep learning curve for the national stage. I guess I'm guilty of identity politics to a degree: I would much prefer a message and platform of racial, social and economic justice be carried by presidential candidate who is a black, Muslim, gay woman. Alas, she isn't here yet.
What Washington State Senator Pramila Jayapal, who is a WoC, said yesterday re: Sanders and the Seattle rally resonates:
Yeah -that'll be the c.t. response.
And rec it!
So much better after the insinuation the two women are new Storm Troopers in the making or Koch operatives.
Did I miss something?? Is this a new attraction at Disney World or something??
I am a massive Star Wars/Clone Wars nerd and I've seen the Storm Troopers do lots of stuff but dancing has not been one of them! 
I haven't been to Disney world in years!
Ya, I am a fan of star wars. Star trek as well.
Ha, you are right love the gifs~ Here is another!
I don't care what anyone says about the man, no one could do it like him...
But your gif is exactly how I feel when I see them doing the strut now...
Oh, they are so proud...
From a newbie on the West Coast!
I was juror #1 
I look forward to #BLM at a Hillary event. It will be interesting to watch how she handles the event...
"Everyday Americans" Hillary And Bill Clinton Report $140 Million In Taxable Income Since 2007
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-03/everyday-americans-hillary-and-bill-clinton-report-140-million-income-2007
Ever since Mitt Romney's tax disclosure fiasco in which allegations of tax avoidance and usage of offshore tax shelters played a major part in the democrat counter campaign, there has been great interest in the Adjusted Gross Income reported by presidential candidates. Which is why to avoid any surprises on the primary circuit, Hillary Clinton released the full data of her and Bill's tax income going back to 2007.
So without further ado, here is the Clinton family's adjusted gross income since 2007. The summary: $139.1 million in income since 2007, most of it thanks to speeches starting at $225,000 and going much higher.
And that is your "everyday Americans."
Snip ...
I work for a corporation and I'm highly compensated for doing so!
I also support vile plutocrats!
What they don't seem to get is that as black folks, more often than not, there are so many layers between us and that much vaunted "1%", that the whole phrase has become trite, much like Occupy.
Now THAT would be damn interesting! 
Hillary has actually met with BLM and and attempting to bring them into the fold. It was something I didn't know about until I researched it last night. I'm hoping if Bernie hasn't done so, he will soon.
I thought I was in bizzaro DU last night and today when Many Bernie supporters appeared to be on the 'shame Black people for not being 100% on the Bernie' bus. As if being condescending will help bring Black votes to their candidate.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/27/hillary-clinton-campaign-starts-black-lives-matter/
They know what's good for African Americans. Why, their candidate marched with MLK! Hey, they'll even post random videos and social media comments from Black people who support Bernie to prove he's best for us!
Thanks.
I don't know if I can edit my earlier post to reflect that HRC's Black outreach director was the one who met directly with BLM to hear their concerns back in July.
Yeah, such a terrible "failure"! 
That's news for some serious celebration!!1one 
I expect most groups in the social media era, will express their satisfaction or displeasure with these candidates via that social media FIRST. When the candidate (or their surrogates or anyone among their campaign staff) ignores these brief utterances, then they ratchet it up a notch... perhaps protesting outside of an event. Continue ignoring them and then they go up another notch and protest within the event.... and so on.
When Hillary (and later O'Malley) used the "All Lives Matter" response to BLM and got the twitterverse storm of feedback, they immediately pivoted. But Bernie has been slow to respond...
The hope is that perhaps his new AA Press Secretary and one of his campaign staff, who is Native American and was on MSNBC this evening @ 5 (with Michael Eric Dyson sitting in), can help bridge that gap.
But the problem with people like Bernie (and like Bill Clinton at one time) is this - there is a perception of a "taint" if you as a white candidate attempts to address black issues. It's an old old old sentiment from back in the day that references ""n****r lovers" and that generation knows all about that. So by using the tactic of pushing for "expediency", our issues are destined to be dropped.
I posted a historical blip in a couple threads about what happened 100 years ago regarding Ida B. Wells-Barnett. her involvement in the Suffragan movement (while spearheading an anti-lynching movement), and "expediency", and I'll do so here as it would be very much appreciated to see history repeating itself as a relative topic in this forum -
Despite the progressive attitude of white female Illinois suffragists, they refused to support her in the historic suffrage march in Washington. Carrying banners representing almost every state in the Union, thousands of parade marchers underscored the demand for universal female enfranchisement. Wells-Barnett was one of sixty-five enthusiastic delegates from Illinois and one of many black women who participated in the march. But the African-American women were instructed to gather as one unit at the end of the procession because the NAWSA forbade the integration of state affiliates in the march. Wells-Barnett refused to comply with the NAWSA demand and instead lined up with her state contingent. Grace Wilbur Trout, president of the Illinois Equal Suffrage Association and chairperson of the group, initially sanctioned the integrated group. But after meeting with a NAWSA official, she told the delegation that Wells-Barnett could not march with the state contingent. Further, if they failed to follow the instructions set forth by the NAWSA, the entire delegation would be denied participation in the march.
Angry at the blatant disregard for her rights as a woman and as an Illinois resident, Wells-Barnett refused to comply. It was time to confront racism within the suffrage movement. Southern women, she argued, had evaded the issues of race, and the NAWSA and its state affiliates had allowed it. She wanted the Illinois group to show the nation that it was progressive enough to stand against NAWSA's hypocrisy of oppressing women because of their race while embracing the idea of equality for all women at the ballot box. Her pleas, however, fell on deaf ears. So did the pleas of two white colleagues, Belle Squire and Virginia Brooks.
http://www.lib.niu.edu/1996/iht319630.html
I think the problem is that often, when they try to talk with us, they do it so awkwardly that it becomes lip service and a "duty" rather than them expanding their agenda to encompass some things that we would like to see that would actually ALSO help ALL people.
See... that's been the argument - THEY define what would supposedly help "all people" but they don't see how some of the things that black folk are demanding, will ALSO help white people and brown people and red people and yellow people. The police issue is one such thing. And I expect many other issues that we have if addressed properly will help ALL people.
And regarding digging up some posts... lol All you have to do is search on "TPP", "TPA", and "Keystone Pipeline" and away we go!
For example - complete with video and 83 recs!!!!!111!!11
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026143878
and meetings or anything because the TPP is literally the worse thing that the United States has ever done. And it is INFINITELY more important than the dozens of unarmed black men, women and CHILDREN that are killed every year by LEO who have actually sworn to PROTECT them.
TPP could actually affect THEM -- the noble, enlightened "liberals". So that makes it infinitely more important than poor and/or black people being gunned down in the street or choked to death for minor infractions or dying in prison cells days later for traffic violations, don't you realize??!11one 
And yeah, it is awkward for them all. Listening to all of these guys talk about minority issues is like listening to a slutty preacher howl about the evils of promiscuity. It feels so incredibly awkward because for alot of these Democratic politicians, they have ALWAYS taken our issues for granted. We have ALWAYS been given lip service. This is probably the first time in a VERY long time that there has been any urgency surrounding our issues and they are all like a deer in headlights. Scrambling to put shit together to give the illusion that they've always given our community the attention it desperately needs to have.
there has been alot of hyperbole from them regarding woulda coulda shouldas like:
1.) The end of SS and Medicate as we know it due to the current President
2.) TPP/TPA
3.) Cecil the Lion
4.) NSA and Snowden
etc.,
Yet when it's something that isn't a woulda coulda shoulda - i.e., literal black DEATHS including women and children, and WE protest that, it's "Oh no no no. You don't do that". 
"Just sit down and shut up and we will take care of you because you are obviously incapable of doing it. We know you and you are doing it wrong."
As a note - I was listening to Joe Madison this morning on SiriusXM and he mentioned how he had co-hosted a big rally in Cleveland in support of the family of 12-year old Tamir Rice who was shot 2 seconds after a wild cop rolled up to him and jumped out of the car to take a black child down as if he were a wild animal... And he said that BLM busted into the event, came up on the stage and demanded to speak. He said "Fine - come on up to the mic and have your say." They did, and they thanked him for giving them a voice.
Lesson: Sometimes that's all a protestor wants. Give them 5 minutes and most times, they are fine with it. But better, include them in your program and they will work all hours of the day and night for you.
