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sheshe2

(83,838 posts)
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:46 PM Aug 2015

Is Black Lives Matter A 'Hate Group'?



Monday morning was no different. During segment on the Black Lives Matter movement, she insisted that the loose group of civil rights demonstrators be labeled a hate group. Reminiscent of the way in which human rights leaders — including the Freedom Riders — have been historically marginalized, Hasselbeck employed similar language.

“Why has the Black Lives Matter movement not been classified yet as a hate group?” Hasselbeck asked her guest. “How much more has to go in this direction before someone actually labels it as such?”

Unfortunately, she is not alone.

In recent weeks, a plethora of cable news pundits and even local law enforcement officials have begun blaming the organization for callous murders — including the ambush shooting deaths of two journalists in Virginia and the assassination of a police officer in Texas. Meanwhile, little — if any — attention has been paid to the proliferation of guns or the lack of meaningful mental health access. As with most crimes involving a black suspect, in these instances, individual behavior has been extrapolated into a broader judgment about an entire race of people. Blaming Black Lives Matter is an all too convenient way to skirt the serious issues that dog us.

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Then too, a privileged class needed a vehicle through which to re-affirm that they are not culpable, that our justice system works just fine, that the American Dream is open and available to all of us. They needed someone to reassured them that police officers are not spilling innocent blood in our names. They needed someone to convince us that Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner deserved to die, even as our hearts and minds clearly told us otherwise. They needed someone to collectively assuage us of any guilt we may have in creating the societal maladies that plague us. They needed someone to remind us that we are exceptional, even as our reflective image says something else.

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Is Black Lives Matter A 'Hate Group'? (Original Post) sheshe2 Aug 2015 OP
Nope JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #1
You are so right, JAG! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #3
Not in my opinion AuntPatsy Aug 2015 #2
She was such a sweetheart on Survivor GitRDun Aug 2015 #4
Dayum, you said it here. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #5
Maybe they think BLM became a hate group when murielm99 Sep 2015 #18
And maybe the Women haters will get angry if we say "abortion is NOT a necessary evil" randys1 Sep 2015 #26
+1 Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #10
No they are not! leftofcool Aug 2015 #6
Hey leftofcool... sheshe2 Aug 2015 #7
Oh for FFS ... only a right wing nut job would equate fighting for HUMAN RIGHTS as hate etherealtruth Aug 2015 #8
Exactly, etherealtruth~ Cha Sep 2015 #12
They do it all the time. It's always Opposite Day. yardwork Sep 2015 #37
Oh hell no ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #9
They sure are a HATE GROUP!!!! MADem Sep 2015 #11
Thank you MADem. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #13
I have been on the road so I haven't been online as much. MADem Sep 2015 #21
You nailed it steve2470 Sep 2015 #23
Aaaaah~ sheshe2 Sep 2015 #25
Re: credibility, I am seeing so many long term people saying the stupidest shit I've ever seen Number23 Sep 2015 #31
I am seeing a lot of noobs trash-talking, and a few old timers really getting into it. MADem Sep 2015 #32
BLM does not advocate violence. Just the opposite, BLM condemns violence. SunSeeker Sep 2015 #14
Well said, SunSeeker~ hasselbeck acts like she's a spokeswoman for the Police that Cha Sep 2015 #15
Of course, they did it to Dr King, too, she. From your link... Cha Sep 2015 #16
As much as some folks like to explain King to us JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #17
I can only imagine, Gen. I just saw it in Cha Sep 2015 #19
Actually educational. qwlauren35 Sep 2015 #29
Of course not gollygee Sep 2015 #20
BLM hates being extra-judicially executed in cold blood on the streets! steve2470 Sep 2015 #22
Right-wing America: Where murdering an unarmed kid carrying some Skittles and tea makes you a hero, WIProgressive88 Sep 2015 #24
You would have nailed it if you'd removed the "right wing" part and just left it America Number23 Sep 2015 #30
Honestly, I thought of editing it after I'd posted to say just that, and I wish that I would have. WIProgressive88 Sep 2015 #33
I couldn't agree more. Number23 Sep 2015 #34
Thank you! WIProgressive88 Sep 2015 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #39
Remember this too ...Remember where we are, folks randys1 Sep 2015 #27
Not just no. zappaman Sep 2015 #28
Um, That would be no. blackspade Sep 2015 #36
I don't ohheckyeah Sep 2015 #38

JustAnotherGen

(31,839 posts)
1. Nope
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:53 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Tue Sep 1, 2015, 05:00 AM - Edit history (1)

And painting them that way wil swayl every single black person in America to get on board with it.

So keep it up Gotcha Media!

sheshe2

(83,838 posts)
3. You are so right, JAG!
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:11 PM
Aug 2015

They don't know it yet, however they have lost the upper hand and #BLM is going to get stronger everyday.

Bring it. I may be blond and blue, yet they have my support all the way. I just don't get why a non white majority in America terrifies so many people. We are going to be a rainbow of colors and a stronger country because of it.

It's time~

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
4. She was such a sweetheart on Survivor
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:16 PM
Aug 2015

Hard to believe she turned out to be such an insufferable human being.

BLM is a hate group only if you're white and you hate when people make you uncomfortable with your racial views...lol.

On the contrary, I would say that BLM is the first successful "leaderless" grass roots group I can think of (I consider the Tea Party "led" and funded by Koch, et al).

Occupy came close but they let the crushing of their rallies stop the movements awareness strategy. BLM seems to have done a good job with small groups keeping the message out there...and they don't hate anyone.

Hard to believe anyone would consider a group whose message is "Please stop killing us!" a hate group.

sheshe2

(83,838 posts)
5. Dayum, you said it here.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:24 PM
Aug 2015

Hard to believe anyone would consider a group whose message is "Please stop killing us!" a hate group.


Thanks, Git.

murielm99

(30,754 posts)
18. Maybe they think BLM became a hate group when
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 05:37 AM
Sep 2015

they stopped saying, "Please stop killing us," and started saying, "Stop killing us."

Why say "please?" Why be polite about it? Why beg? Why is outrage over all the deaths so shocking?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. And maybe the Women haters will get angry if we say "abortion is NOT a necessary evil"
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:43 AM
Sep 2015

It is a legitimate medical procedure that I will stop apologizing for.

And if I am a Gay person I will NOT apologize for that while asking your permission to get married.

And above all, because skin color is a 24/7 state of oppression in America if you arent white, no more apologies

Stop killing them, or else.

Cha

(297,453 posts)
12. Exactly, etherealtruth~
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 01:49 AM
Sep 2015
#BlackLivesMatter is about LOVE and not wanting Fellow Black Americans murdered by Police.

#BlackLivesMatter

yardwork

(61,687 posts)
37. They do it all the time. It's always Opposite Day.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:24 PM
Sep 2015

NAACP? Hate group, because equality means hate, or something.

The fact is, bigots do hate equality. They fear losing what they think they deserve. They don't want to share.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. They sure are a HATE GROUP!!!!
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 01:41 AM
Sep 2015

They are a group of people who are activists, who "HATE" the fact that black children and adults are being killed on the streets of our nation in disproportionate numbers for bullshit reasons.

It's a good reason to hate something.

I hate the fact that some idiots on TV, shooting off their dumb mouths, can't see this.

sheshe2

(83,838 posts)
13. Thank you MADem.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:01 AM
Sep 2015

So good to see you, we haven't talked in awhile. I am not here as much as I was.

Then too, a privileged class needed a vehicle through which to re-affirm that they are not culpable


They needed someone to reassured them that police officers are not spilling innocent blood in our names. They needed someone to convince us that Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner deserved to die, even as our hearts and minds clearly told us otherwise. They needed someone to collectively assuage us of any guilt we may have in creating the societal maladies that plague us. They needed someone to remind us that we are exceptional, even as our reflective image says something else.


I am not at all surprised that this thread has failed. AA wants nothing to do with this place anymore, can't blame them.

Lot's of people are scarce here now. They have said, Enough!

Democratic Underground is dying. I am sad about that. I will be here until Obama's last day in office. I will not leave before that time. I have made friends here and it saddens me that we will no longer be able to talk.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. I have been on the road so I haven't been online as much.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 11:27 AM
Sep 2015

I am still travelling, won't hit home base until tomorrow--and then I have a busy week ahead.

I think people are leaving for more conducive boards. DU has been overrun by trolls and libertarians and cavers having a laugh, I think. I've never seen so many people presenting with a full history, that they share with everyone, like it's the Dating Game, or something!! Hi, I'm a (insert age/race and/or ethnic group and gender) from (insert city) who just LOVES (insert improbable candidate for individual of that ethnicity to support). Blah, blah, blah, blah earnest comments, blah, blah, blah, blah we can win!!!

It sounds like so damn much astroturf it makes my skin crawl.

Of course, once the elections are over, those assholes will skeedaddle. And this place may well become a ghost town. Some people may return, but others may not. People don't like it when they are loyal and their loyalty is disrespected. It's a tricky thing.

I think the big failure of this place has been the idea that a newcomer who has been here for three months (trolling, laying low, building up a post count) has as much cred as someone who has been here for several years. That's what has destroyed the place. There should be more credit for time served, as it were. All opinions don't have equal weight--it's something that needs to be earned over time, that "credibility."

The admins should consider making changes on those lines, and insist that people have more time here before they are even allowed to start jurying people. The newcomers don't understand the culture and they don't want to, either.

This site has the best format. That's really what makes it great. The community, though, has been fractured--don't know if it's irrevocable but it's pretty damn bad.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
23. You nailed it
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 01:25 PM
Sep 2015

The admins have compromised due to business concerns, and as a result, the website has been corrupted beyond belief. If they would reform the jury system or bring back moderators, the site would return to its former glory.

A few hard and fast rules would help also. Like, you cannot call a Democrat like HRC a "whore". To me, that is pretty basic. FREESPEECHOMGNAZIS the rabble will cry, well, I don't give a ***** Go call HRC a whore on Discussionist or Yahoo.

sheshe2

(83,838 posts)
25. Aaaaah~
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 10:18 PM
Sep 2015

I see you have been reading some of the same Ops that I have. Hmmm~ I know what you mean.

I've never seen so many people presenting with a full history, that they share with everyone, like it's the Dating Game, or something!! Hi, I'm a (insert age/race and/or ethnic group and gender) from (insert city) who just LOVES (insert improbable candidate for individual of that ethnicity to support). Blah, blah, blah, blah earnest comments, blah, blah, blah, blah we can win!!!


Yes, Skinner answered questions about alerts and hides. EarlG gave some stats here. Yet they picked only one day and said everything is a okay.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/12598513

I think I may ask EarlG to check into the night bravenak got hides, a few others as well with multiple alerts and hides in one night. At least they are monitoring yet I do not believe they are giving us full disclosure.

I agree, the system needs to be changed.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
31. Re: credibility, I am seeing so many long term people saying the stupidest shit I've ever seen
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:02 AM
Sep 2015

or heard anywhere in my entire life. People that have been on DU for YEARS.

That #BLM is a "pro-Hillary shill organization" and that the concern for and support towards #BLM from this forum is all fake. So "credibility" doesn't have a damn thing to do with how long you've been here but more to do with who you go after and who you consider to be your "enemy".

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. I am seeing a lot of noobs trash-talking, and a few old timers really getting into it.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:26 AM
Sep 2015

Some of them are not surprising, they're always contrarians on a good day, but a few of them have surprised me too.

I have to say, the comments that have been tinged with racism and sexism are pretty painful to note. There's a lot of illiberal conversation happening up in here and I am saddened to see some of the invective. I don't think some of the people can ever walk back some of the stuff that has been said. It's kind of sad.

SunSeeker

(51,617 posts)
14. BLM does not advocate violence. Just the opposite, BLM condemns violence.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:26 AM
Sep 2015

I can't believe they are trying to pin random shootings by mentally ill people on BLM.

Cha

(297,453 posts)
15. Well said, SunSeeker~ hasselbeck acts like she's a spokeswoman for the Police that
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 03:00 AM
Sep 2015

murder unarmed Black kids with impunity.

#BlackLivesMatter

Cha

(297,453 posts)
16. Of course, they did it to Dr King, too, she. From your link...
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 03:16 AM
Sep 2015
"Dr. King was repeatedly pressed to condemn the black rioter and shoulder the responsibility for “black-on-black” crime even by those who professed to love him. They questioned his timing, his tactics, his policy focus and even the tenor of his voice when they didn’t want to talk about voting rights, discuss poverty or answer mounting questions about a war."

BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors is no Dr. King. But those who malign the organization, by setting it in the same category as the Ku Klux Klan and Council of Concerned Citizens, reveal something unspeakably ugly about themselves."

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Mahalo for alerting us to what's happening from RW Propaganda Central just like back in Dr King's Day.

#BlackLivesMatter

And, that goes for those on any part of the spectrum who try to malign #BlackLivesMatter.

JustAnotherGen

(31,839 posts)
17. As much as some folks like to explain King to us
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 05:02 AM
Sep 2015

This is well known by black Americans -


They questioned his timing, his tactics, his policy focus and even the tenor of his voice when they didn’t want to talk about voting rights, discuss poverty or answer mounting questions about a war."


steve2470

(37,457 posts)
22. BLM hates being extra-judicially executed in cold blood on the streets!
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 01:20 PM
Sep 2015

So, if that means they are a hate group, so be it. in case you cannot tell


Support BLM!!!!


WIProgressive88

(314 posts)
24. Right-wing America: Where murdering an unarmed kid carrying some Skittles and tea makes you a hero,
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 09:15 PM
Sep 2015

and demonstrating against police brutality makes you part of a hate group.

WIProgressive88

(314 posts)
33. Honestly, I thought of editing it after I'd posted to say just that, and I wish that I would have.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 11:07 AM
Sep 2015

Much of this country's lost its damn mind, and you're right; it's not limited to just the right wing...

Response to WIProgressive88 (Reply #24)

randys1

(16,286 posts)
27. Remember this too ...Remember where we are, folks
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:47 AM
Sep 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

There will be infiltrators who will try and make them look violent.

It is happening right now, trust me.

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