They keep trying to refute.

I don't have a lot of words in me tonight. It is wrong and I have no clue how to change it. Du got ugly.

Many of the "suspects" are oblivious to their own deep seated feelings. Racism and prejudice are two distinct emotions. Trying to educate is a fools errand in a community like this. Don't let others problem steal your happiness or peace of mind.

*whispers something about white tears gif*

Sorry sheshe. Lousy hide.

I've ever seen. Wow! The world of racism unraveling and some can't stand that??? Reality bites.

How do these people function in real life? I see when they alerted on me they huffed that whites are the majority, like that created some kind of moral immunity?

And anyway, not for much longer. CA is already majority Latino, I'm sure other states are close.

I guess we can't have the discussion here about what being in the "majority" has wrought historically on minority races, without getting accused of "racist trash." Unreal.

I love my state and the phrase "As California goes, so goes the nation."

It is unreal, Starry Messenger, because we can't have that reality-based discussion with so many people. The full impact of that struck me after reading a study finding, Caucasians, "often believe that racial equality is 'a zero sum game,' where one group gains at the expense of others."

Wow!, there is no such thing as equality. There's only inequality and it Must be in their favor. We've got such a long way to go but away we go with them kicking and screaming. It's like we have to teach them how to be free

http://politicalblindspot.com/study-finds-white-americans-believe-they-experience-more-racism-than-african-americans/

others." reading that phrase puts so many things into perspective.

I have to believe this ideology can be eradicated, but it seems so stubbornly embedded in both white individuals and white institutions. Having our majority status shrink down may not get rid of such a reactionary view, but perhaps it will have less effect in politics and policies, out of sheer numbers.

I love our state too. Driving down the 5 though, sometimes I look out on all those towns, just a huge mall, parking lots, little subdivisions, corporate chain restaurants and mega-farms, and think, this is all part of whiteness. We were in charge, and this is what we did with it. And for what? Why is it bad to say that sharing the future and power with other races has to bring about something better than this?

meaning Latinos, African Americans, and Asians combined now constitute a larger percentage of the population than "non-Hispanic" whites. Latinos also outnumber whites, but are not yet the majority population in the state.

But the demographics are indeed heading toward a majority Latino state, especially when you consider that the average age of Latinos in CA is under 30 while the average age for whites is about 55. Those demographics show what a stupid gambit the CA repub party made several times over with their discriminatory legislation...and how short-sighted the national party is to stir up rancor against the nation's Latino population.

Boom.

You nailed it.

Their white world is coming to an end. They are scared.

Screw it. I embrace it.

For sheshe.

be the majority. this is nothing new. (the articles did have a date--mid century??) I do not recall. Thanks for the Re-post.

I am looking forward to this change. Funny one of my young relatives who supports Bernie and he's white had the perfect response to a so called dems who was concerned that black folks weren't taking his advice. My nephew said he was looking forward to the day when whites are no longer the majority. He also said we white folks need to accept this and stop taking their fear out on poc.
We, white people are not going to hold all the power, it makes some of us murderous. Some of us are just starting to think it's not a bad thing. Nephew also said so what if we all start speaking Spanish. He gives me hope.

Houston to be precise. Demographics are interesting:

According to the U.S. Census 2000, the racial makeup of the city was 49.3% White (including Hispanic or Latino), 25.3% Black or African American, 0.4% Native American, 5.3% Asian, 0.18% Pacific Islander, 16.5% from other races, and 3.2% from two or more races. 37% of the population was Hispanic or Latino of any race.

If I am reading this correctly that would make it about 39 percent white, non-hispanic. No place is perfect but people get along pretty well there. Also a large LGBT population with an openly lesbian mayor who has 2 lovely adopted African-American girls. It's a sleeper of a place when it comes to diversity. I really liked it there. Too bad it's in Texas.

Seriously, this is true. Liberals have been rightly accusing right-wing loons of fearing poc but fail to examine their own racism, we have to do this, its time. For decades I thought I was very progressive, why I have a multiracial daughter and a black grandson, of course I'm not a racist.
My self examination came when I started working at my historically black hospital. Sometimes I'm the only white person there. I found out I really ain't the shit I thought I was. It was a shock to my self esteem to find out white privilege did not earn me respect. 15 years later I am still learning.
The important thing I learned just this week is we are having a job fair and I suggested our major recruiting point should be we are a black hospital, we are history, we are culture, we are proud. Now I've heard the saying black and proud for decades, starting to understand it.

It's just unbelievable that they would take it to this level. If I say what I really think it would get me in trouble.

as an 80 year old grandmother let me give you some advice.

If something bothers you and you have the ability to avoid it that's what should be done.

Life is too short to let nasty people get into your head.

It would have been bad enough with simple Hillary hate.

But I am stunned by the level of racism and tone deafness I have seen the last couple of days. I did not think it could get any worse. It has.

I am sorry.

of cops hosing down black folks, saying that's what Hillary did to the protesters at an AfAm rally about racial profiling. It was some sick twisting especially with John Lewis being there.

Was it allowed to stand? Where is Skinner?

but two images that were terribly inappropriate.

I suggest everyone alert that remaining post.

It goes to Administration and I hope they are aware of that poster's behavior.

should have been permanently banned.

I know that poster, by the way, he is a big Bernie supporter and has argued with me often.

Both were ridiculous.

Frylock. I PM'd him and told him to self-delete the other one and he said no and then said he only posted them to piss off Bravenak who he then called a "phony little social justice warrior". I sent the PMs to Skinner and Bravenak. Also put the picture and his quote in my signature line-just for fun.

for a totally bogus alert on Bravenak. Vote was 1-6 to leave it, but evidence she is still being stalked.

Sorry your post was hidden in the "derangement" thread, I agreed with that too.

being slowly lanced and it's excruciatingly painful for some people. I think of how they feel to go that far sometimes and I got to rejoice a little. I looked at those photos and give thanks to those who put their bodies on the line for me so long ago. It's sad but in comparison to what they went through, we can take it because it ultimately doesn't have the same meaning for us as the intention of the poster. "The rest of you that don't get it never will I'm afraid but I promise to keep fighting them until I'm banned." Thanks for that!

So I would have said thank you sooner but I got 2 hides and my account got suspended for a day and a half. Since then 2 people posted pictures of civil rights activists being tortured as an example of what Hillary would do, a poster on this thread in a protected forum got a hide for saying almost exactly what you are saying, someone posted a thread telling white people to quit apologizing for the horrific behaviour of the racists on this board and that's just all I could keep up with.

edit: the person scolding white people for apologizing then went on to explain why the racists were justified in their response.

I didn't know and truly wasn't saying to readily show gratitude. I know that comes after dealing with desperation that has no boundaries. The intent of that poster in reference to Hillary is despicable and I'm not a fan of HRC or BS.

It's the same shit but a different day. So I know many of them will only get worse as we calmly, thoughtfully, and mindfully weigh our options and decide what's best for us as a whole and individually. It's only another beginning and I'm grateful for the young people who are so aware nowadays, our allies, and you. Thank you for engaging with people who, to me, are too far gone.

Thank you, AA group for this space that can't be invaded.

I likely deserved one hide. I called them Bernie Brownshirts. I don't regret it though. The other was bogus. I can't believe that Hillary supporter has become coded language for justifying attacks on people of color and women. I've never actually supported Hillary or Sanders because I just don't know yet. Unless some amazing person comes out of nowhere and gets enough popular support to potentially beat the republican nominee and win, I'll vote for whoever the democrats choose. I'll be holding my nose just a little.

that the far left and far right are more aligned. And in this instance, we are at the center where the two are closest as far as behavior or how to get their way. Both cry-bullies in my opinion.

Where was that? There is too much to keep track of. I'm also often confused when someone starts off by saying how negative and nasty it is around here and then goes on to blame the very people who are on the receiving end of all the hate. Confused.

It wasn't as bad as I first thought. They were telling people to do something instead of apologizing which is OK. Sorry if I got that wrong.

I'm curious.

I was on GD for just a few minutes this morning and got out and came here and to a few other forums. It's just not worth it.

Someone in another thread suggested that DU create a GDP "Dungeon" forum where all the shit-slinging type threads could be posted (not posts intended to create a hostile environment for women, LGBTQ, or people of color; that shit has no place on DU) so that the rest of the site could be left for people who want to have more reasonable and civil debates and discussions. Feel like that might be a good idea. I do think that most Sanders and Clinton supporters on this site are good people, and that there's probably a quiet majority on both ends who are sick of the insults and posts that seem to be just intended to anger a particular candidate's supporters.

because the shitstirrers are rolling them in to their fold.

The other day, I saw a post that, in apparent seriousness and earnestness, compared the folks escorting BLM protesters from the HRC event with the cops "escorting" Freddie Gray to the patty wagon. Because, you know, breaking up a protest is analogous to killing someone.

What this has taught me is that, yes, Black Lives DO Matter. But largely as a way to score political points against the "other side."

And I generally avoid GDP, so I'm sure I miss lots of the most egregious stuff posted there.

That liberal racists would come out full force this election cycle. That someone was so right.

I was beginning to feel it too, having been an active participant in the President Obama group. So many good things have been posted there, about him and his family and his Administration. Every now and then someone would come in and post all sorts of ridiculous hateful things about him or his policies. And of course in general discussion they post things like that all the time.

I began thinking to myself - as I'm sure many others here did - that these people who mercilessly attack President Obama are now vehemently supporting Bernie Sanders and mercilessly attacking Hillary Clinton. That's not going to work well. For one, they have lost credibility for never having the President's back. Second, their 'my way or the highway' approach won't gain them a lot of the supporters necessary to actually help their candidate win the democratic nomination. Winning over the Obama coalition is necessary for a democratic candidate to win the nomination.

Purportedly for Democrats. Some of the recent posts are simply sickening.

I'm in total agreement with you luvpeas.

I don't know what brought them here or how long they intend to stay, but a good number of them make remark that I never thought would be acceptable in a progressive forum.

On Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:48 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I think they're being lead here through Disgustionist. n/t
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=31004

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Discussionist was created by the admins of DU. It is a violation of the ToS to refer to it in this manner or whine about DU or the admins.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Nov 2, 2015, 08:30 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: meh
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I am thinking the alerter hasn't actually read the ToS. I just did, twice, and couldn't find a single thing about how one may or may not refer to Discussionist.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: So, it is disgusting, went there once and felt like I needed to be steam cleaned to get the stink off me.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nice try...OK, not really. How sad.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Um, this whole thread is a "whine about DU." As far as how to refer to Discussionist because it was "created by the admins of DU," well, even good guys can make the occasional mistake.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seriously? Very silly alert. In fact I'd go so far as stating this is alert abuse.

take a look at who's abusing the alert system. Thanks for letting me know.

maybe just maybe they can change something. And as youth used to internet chat areas even best friends chats look like they are mortal enemies and are going to kill each other. But that is just the way they are. I am glad they are getting involved. I would have hate to see what I would be like at 18 or 19 again with the internet."

I am 67 and I really trust the under 30 crowd to make the right decision on the election. Have fun

or in 2015.

DU is brimming with very aggressive Bernie supporters who tolerate no dissension, no not all, but MANY , therefore someone like Bravenak or myself or others will be on constant threat of being silenced for actually supporting a Democratic candidate.

This is INSANE

unmolested, until BS announced he was running for President. That's the only thing that has changed. Since then, we've had frivolous alerts, members targeted for timeouts and/or banning. If they don't like what they read here, why not just trash the group so they never have to be confronted with inconvenient truths, or anything that might hurt their feewings.

Bernie is, but that concern is now long gone on DU.

If there was a single AfAm on DU who wasnt aware of Bernie's SNCC history and walking with MLK and so on, they are now, so those people need to STOP the lecturing.

Then there are those who have little patience for certain folks, and even less patience when they see those folks not agreeing with them on Bernie in that they see Bernie as saving them money, benefiting them financially, and some of these supporters care about little else.

Many of these fans didnt know what SNCC was until someone like me explained it or they looked it up on the internets.

oh well...

As a progressive board, there should be s standard of conduct on matters of race, gender, LGBT community, etc. It's not complicated at all. Some things should not be acceptable here. And we especially need to take a hard look at a lot of these newcomers who came here for whatever reason and have been causing the most trouble because I don't see the abuse coming from familiar names.

DU infighting.

[ON EDIT: oops, meant this as a reply to your post above]

I don't know why I only register at 9,000 posts.

I missed the original thread.

Thanks for high-lighting it the post you linked to. Some people will say and do ANYTHING to "win". Replied shortly after you, I didn't think anything could shock me anymore.

Number one is guilt,

another might be that many people feel that the "black question" has been discussed enough. A corollary to the "post-racial America" Argument.

I think the self-identified POC on this board actually talk a lot more about other things. The bigots just keep pulling them in to inane and offensive conversations. i.e.-why would you of all people blahblahblah.

the commenter might feel a need to respond in an attempt to delegitimize the argument.

There are a few single issue posters at DU, but I agree that most people have very many interests.

Plus DU, like most forums of this type, is anonymous. No one will recognize the bigot outside of this place. Anonymity serves the same purpose as a Klan hood.

Creepy but true.