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sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:23 PM Nov 2015

The White Racial Innocence Game

November 12, 2015 • Eduardo Bonilla-Silva • racism



Just one day after a successful student movement forced a college president to resign, the “collective white” is playing the racial innocence game and blaming people of color for the racial climate on college campuses across the nation. Whether at Yale or Mizzou, most whites believe that students and faculty of color are “hypersensitive,” playing “the race card,” and censoring (mostly) innocent white students and administrators. Yesterday morning, for example, Joe Scarborough savaged two black journalists from the Washington Post who are regulars in his MORNING JOE show. He demanded they explain to him why the President of Mizzou had to resign for two “isolated incidents” (he actually used this phrase). Scarborough argued that there is no evidence of “systemic racism” at Mizzou and that the ousted President had agreed to the demand of establishing an ethnic studies requirement (faculty reading this post know these requirements have been in place in many colleges since the 1980s or early 1990s). Since Eugene Robinson and Jonathan Capehart did not answer Mr. Scarborough’s questions in a cogent way and since Mr. Scarborough’s questions represent, in my view, how most whites interpret events in college campuses, I want to take some time to explain how systemic racism operates in HWCUs (historically white colleges and universities).

First, whites need to understand that most colleges and universities in the USA are white-oriented and white-led. This is why I call them HWCUs and, as I have argued many times in my FB (Facebook) posts, these institutions reproduce whiteness through their curriculum, culture, demography, symbols, traditions, and ecology. The white innocence game begins with the assumption that these spaces are racially neutral, but that assumption is false! HWCUs were 100% white institutions until very recently and that white history shaped them in profound ways. The admission of a few people of color in the late 1960s and 1970s into HWCUs—and I must point out that their admission was because people of color protested and demanded inclusion—did not lead to their “integration,” a concept that involves much more than spatial cohabitation. In fact, many ways whites, the W in HWCUs, have remained central to their organization and culture. We were brought into these places as guests with the expectation that we would not ask for anything else—we have been for a long time but few dots of color in otherwise white canvasses. (As an aside, part of the white innocence game is the belief by whites that we are ungrateful for all they have done for us; for all they have given us over the years. To this “white sincere fiction” (Feagin and Vera, White Racism), given that we fought for our freedom and partial inclusion in America, I say, “Thank you massa!”)

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Fifth, if Scarborough and other whites asked us open, rather that accusatory questions, such as, “How do you feel in the college in which you work?” they would be surprised. They would hear about how often we experience microaggressions perpetrated by professors, students, staff, and the campus police. They would hear how we feel like most white colleagues (faculty and students) do not understand, care, or appreciate our work. They would hear about how alienated and tired we are in these institutions. They would hear about how the racialized stress we endure day in and day out is literally KILLING us. Yes, racism experienced in low but constant intensity is, as the work of David R, Williams clearly shows, a silent killer.

So Mr. Scarborough and whites in America, racism in the academy, like racism in the nation, is indeed systemic! Although it no longer operates primarily the way it did 50 years ago, the new “killing me softly” way in which racial domination is carried out is effective in maintaining the white house WHITE. So please, please, please STOP the racial innocence game; stop saying that you play no part of the American racial game in America because some of your “best friends are black” (you don’t know their names, but they are your very best friends); stop accusing people of color of dividing the academy (NEWSFLASH, we have been divided forever!) and “censoring” you (are you kidding me?); stop proclaiming that because you do not use the N-word and are a “good person,” that this is enough (you still receive the “wages of whiteness” so your claim to racial innocence is not credible)!

Read More: http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2015/11/12/white-racial-innocence-game/

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The White Racial Innocence Game (Original Post) sheshe2 Nov 2015 OP
FUCK YOU SCARBOROUGH, and this doesnt happen if it isnt for football. randys1 Nov 2015 #1
One of my favorite quotes by James Baldwin Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #2
"It is the innocence which constitutes the crime." sheshe2 Nov 2015 #4
Are you serious!?!?! qwlauren35 Nov 2015 #20
I am with you. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #32
May I ask, what does "It is the innocence which constitutes the crime" mean to you? aikoaiko Nov 2015 #14
To me, it means that many white people Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #15
Ok, I can see that. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #16
Who me? randys1 Nov 2015 #17
"hypersensitive" gollygee Nov 2015 #3
^^^This^^^ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #7
It isn't hypersensitivity, it is mostly white ignorance because ... kwassa Nov 2015 #5
I agree, it is white ignorance in many cases. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #33
Thanks for posting this, sheshe. brer cat Nov 2015 #6
Good old Joe Scar a dollar short sheshe2 Nov 2015 #25
Excellent article MaggieD Nov 2015 #9
Thankls MaggieD~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #24
Bravenak and I were talking about this the other day. Thanks for posting this! n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #10
You are welcome, freshwest. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #23
Perfect. ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #11
I hate to racially stereotype... MADem Nov 2015 #12
So well said MADem. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #19
I guess I'm missing something here. virgogal Nov 2015 #27
I think you ARE missing the point. Good grief. MADem Nov 2015 #28
Then instead of going to college they could work. virgogal Nov 2015 #30
Work? Where? In their neighborhood where there are no jobs? MADem Nov 2015 #35
Excellent piece MrScorpio Nov 2015 #13
;) sheshe2 Nov 2015 #22
This is something I see all the time The Polack MSgt Nov 2015 #18
Another profound post gwheezie Nov 2015 #26
Lol~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #29
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Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #31
MIRT Quackers Nov 2015 #34

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. FUCK YOU SCARBOROUGH, and this doesnt happen if it isnt for football.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:26 PM
Nov 2015

THAT should be the fucking story

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
2. One of my favorite quotes by James Baldwin
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:31 PM
Nov 2015

I'll put it here again.


I know what the world has done to my brother and how narrowly he has survived it and I know, which is much worse, and this is the crime of which I accuse my country and my countrymen and for which neither I nor time nor history will ever forgive them, that they have destroyed and are destroying hundreds of thousands of lives and do not know it and do not want to know it. One can be--indeed, one must strive to become--tough and philosophical concerning destruction and death, for this is what most of mankind has been best at since we have heard of war; remember, I said most of mankind, but it is not permissible that the authors of devastation should also be innocent. It is the innocence which constitutes the crime.


http://progressive.org/news/2014/12/5047/letter-my-nephew

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
4. "It is the innocence which constitutes the crime."
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:03 PM
Nov 2015

That quote takes my breath away, Kev.

This too...

"Try to imagine how you would feel if you woke up one morning to find the sun shivering and all the stars aflame. You would be frightened because it is out of the order of nature. Any upheaval in the universe is terrifying because it so profoundly attacks one's sense of one's own reality. Well, the black man has functioned in the white man's world as a fixed star, as an immovable pillar, and as he moves out of his place, heaven and earth are shaken to their foundations.

- See more at: http://progressive.org/news/2014/12/5047/letter-my-nephew#sthash.FC8C2Cap.dpuf

We will no longer be a white America soon, I embrace that. I want an America of colors. as he moves out of his place, heaven and earth are shaken to their foundations

Move, keep moving out of "your place". America has gone stale for hundreds of years with only white men ruling. We need diversity.

FYI. I got a hide for saying I did not embrace a white America. I am white.






qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
20. Are you serious!?!?!
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:37 PM
Nov 2015

We're supposed to embrace a white America?

Yuck.

I still remember a white woman I knew at my old job, ages ago who said that she was afraid of a multi-colored America, because she was blond haired and blue eyed, her traits are recessive, and she feared that she would be swallowed up. Welcome to the world of being a minority... it's coming. No, you won't get swallowed up, but perhaps you won't be the standard of beauty that everyone else is judged by. I think she didn't realize what she really meant. But I remember how uncomfortable it made me feel.

I remember when Lupita went on the cover of People as "Most Beautiful Woman" and how soooooooo many men, white and black, said that People was wrong, and that she is actually "quite ugly". Now, I must say, men are wired funny when it comes to the whole "beauty" thing. They are very visual, and "they know what they like". You can say that a woman "isn't your type". But UGLY? That woman is gorgeous.

Anyone who wants to embrace a white America either hasn't looked around lately or has, and is frightened by it. Personally, the coloring of America has me pretty excited.

Sorry about the tangent...

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #4)

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
14. May I ask, what does "It is the innocence which constitutes the crime" mean to you?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:18 PM
Nov 2015


I don't think I understand it unless it means it is a metaphorical crime when you say you're innocent of racial injustice when you're not.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
15. To me, it means that many white people
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:53 PM
Nov 2015

remain willfully ignorant of the history of white supremacy and white privilege in this country.

Because if they don't know the depths to which racism and white supremacy goes ("down to the bones&quot than, in their minds, they can't be held accountable for it.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
17. Who me?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:36 PM
Nov 2015

"I have never used the N word and I donated to the NAACP once."

So dont bother me with racism, it may exist but I dont have anything to do with it nor do I have any responsibility for it.










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I have read this type of thing here at DU, variations of it, and I have heard it out here, in the real world.

Same thing for Gay community - Who me? "I have never used the F word and I watch Glee."

etc

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
3. "hypersensitive"
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:36 PM
Nov 2015

= sensitive about things they don't think people should be sensitive about. The term "hypersensitive" in regard to race is just more white supremacy - we want to define what should or should not be acceptable or concerning to other people. It's all up to us - we are the ones in charge of what is reasonable and what is not.

It is really hard to step back and not simply assume that the way we see things is "normal" and the way people of color see things is "abnormal" or hypersensitive. But it's important for us to collectively do if we want the world to be a better place.

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
7. ^^^This^^^
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:29 PM
Nov 2015
we want to define what should or should not be acceptable or concerning to other people. It's all up to us - we are the ones in charge of what is reasonable and what is not.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
5. It isn't hypersensitivity, it is mostly white ignorance because ...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:20 PM
Nov 2015

whites have no knowledge of the daily experience of black people. They simply can't have that experience because they can't live it.

and for most people, if it hasn't happened to them .... it doesn't really exist.

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
8. I agree, it is white ignorance in many cases.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:06 PM
Nov 2015

Not all. I do not wish to broad brush.

I am sad that they are just black spots on a white canvas. The artist needs to finish the painting.

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brer cat

(24,591 posts)
6. Thanks for posting this, sheshe.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:21 PM
Nov 2015

I saw a comment this week: if you’re still asking whether blackface Halloween costumes are okay, you’re about five questions too late. When Joe Scar asks a question about racism, he is about five decades too late.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. I hate to racially stereotype...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:26 AM
Nov 2015

But if Joe Scarborough could act, and I happened to be casting a film that included a character who was an especially cruel slave overseer on a large southern plantation, I'd cast that pig-eyed asshole in a New York minute.

Now, looks can be--and often are--deceiving. In the case of Scarborough, though, he's channeling some vicious overseer-style racism right there.

I have been appalled for many, many years at the whole concept of these "white" universities with a teeny, tiny amount of black students, many of whom are funneled into Big Money athletic programs, given a substandard education, forced to work mightily at the Business of Athletics for no damn pay (and the hope that they can compete one day for rare, hard-to-get, jobs in national professional athletics), and then, when they've been used up, they're dumped.

I think that the student-athletes at these schools are only just now realizing their power--and they do have power. Their blood, sweat and tears every week earns MILLIONS for these shitty schools. And what do they get? NOTHING. I think these schools need to provide these students free tuition for as long as they want it after their playing days have ended. We all know they get a shitty education while they're playing ball--let them get their education properly after they are done playing--maybe take another major, or two, or three, if they'd like, and a masters/PhD, too, if they want it--for FREE.

It's disgraceful how these student-players are used and discarded. I hope they use their newly-found power to demand change not just for the community at large, which is abused and victimized by this mean, shitty "bro" culture of entitled little shits, but for THEMSELVES as well--those players deserve some kind of compensation, beyond a shit education in a crappy, unusable subject.

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
19. So well said MADem.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:47 PM
Nov 2015

Used and discarded for profit. They will be given a pass for their grades so they can play the all important game. They will always be a knee injury away from failed dreams. In the end they will have nothing to fall back on. No focus, no education and no future.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
27. I guess I'm missing something here.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:03 AM
Nov 2015

Athletes CHOOSE to be student athletes.

The kids that aren't athletic go the hard way---and that's the way most of us go.

The athletes could quit sports and join the rest of us if they feel they are being used unfairly.





MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. I think you ARE missing the point. Good grief.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:12 AM
Nov 2015

They are only accepted to the schools because of their athletic talent. They are shoved into stupid "no work" majors that do not prepare them with a 'real' college education, and they are used and abused, sometimes injured, working for no pay during their athletic seasons, all for the 'hope' of being noticed by a major league scout. These guys earn their schools MILLIONS--and that can be for a single game if it is televised.

"Quit sports and join the rest of us?" Please. Without their athletic prowess, they would not be considered for admission. Many of them are woefully unprepared for college because they come from underserved schools where they're socially promoted--again, because of their athletic skills. These kids get screwed, and if they got a tenth of the money, collectively, that they earn for their schools, they'd be living large for decades.

It's not fair. It's exploitative and abusive. It needs to stop. Either properly educate these young people, or give up the sports programs. I won't hold my breath on the latter, so they need to get serious on the former.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
30. Then instead of going to college they could work.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:30 AM
Nov 2015

Lots of people don't go to college.

Neither of my parents went and one of my sons went right to work.

College is not for everyone----and the way things are going these days it may almost be a waste of money for some. I have a couple of grandkids in now and I hope it's worth it.

None of these young athletes have to allow themselves to be money machines. They could walk away.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. Work? Where? In their neighborhood where there are no jobs?
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:00 AM
Nov 2015

How are they supposed to work without decent high school skills?

You do realize this is an INSTITUTIONAL failure. Our nation does not adequately serve its constituents. Your quality of education depends on your ZIP code. If you live in a shit neighborhood, and go to a shit school, you have no hope.

This is why social justice needs to be at the forefront of everything we do. There can be no "Oh, just get a job" until we prepare every youth for that option.

And why should these kids turn down a "shot"--even if it is a long one--of breaking out of poverty into the big money?

That said, forcing these kids to labor for the college, earning the school millions, and coming out without even a basic education, is just WRONG. I am glad these athletes are flexing their muscles--I hope they do a LOT more of this. That mean, mean greed of the college administrators needs to be chained and channeled, and I hope those kids do just that.

The Polack MSgt

(13,191 posts)
18. This is something I see all the time
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:18 PM
Nov 2015

The attitude that as long as minorities aren't excluded entirely, then there is no racism in play.

But all the hurt feelings on display when POC point out uncomfortable truths about any situation proves the lie.

A lot of folks believe that minorities should only be upset about issues that are white people pre-approved and to stray from those subjects is somehow "ungrateful".

While this is still an issue in the Armed Forces, strong black leadership (in the ranks and in the Officer Corps) have chipped away at that attitude in my long career.
It was alarmingly, obviously racist as fuck in 1982. Much less so in 2005 when I retired.
The improvement did not come about because of good will and benevolence but because the worst actors were prosecuted and discharged.

Getting that done in a non-regulated situation is a problem. After all the mule quickly gets tired of carrots when you don't have a stick to go along with 'em

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
26. Another profound post
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:02 AM
Nov 2015

A couple years ago I was in a discussion with a group of people who were mostly insisting they weren't racist but couldn't stop themselves talking bout how soon this won't be America anymore. When we boiled down the fear, it came down to the country will be brown and speaking Spanish. Both my nephews, 30 ish year old white guys responded with so what? Why would that be a bad thing? Several people in the group clutched their pearls. I can't figure it out, I'm kinda looking forward to the day when whites aren't running the place.

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
29. Lol~
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:14 AM
Nov 2015

Some clutching their pearls.

I am with you and I embrace a magnificently colored America. Census show that by 2040 we will have tipped over. We are in desperate need of diversity as opposed to a monopoly.

Good to see you gwheezie.

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