I read that thread and I am amazed at the lack of history kids are actually reading these days.

they don't know the history of Rosa Parks and how she had been working on civil rights before the famous bus case we know about.

There were so many to choose from . . .

Unbelievable.

Yeah - she just 'decided'

My ass! She was deliberate and on point.

I argued with a conservative once who was OUTRAGED that Parks' civil disobedience was the result of a coherent, planned strategy. Well at least the conservative was right about the historical part..... I guess he was mad that his side got beat?

It made me feel bad to see so much wasted energy. Even though your main antagonist came to his senses and apologized, the exchange highlighted the fact we live in an age where reactionary responses are normal.
it seems that we do not educate our populace in reality based facts, or encourage critical thinking. It keeps the masses in a constant state of confusion thus rendered, easier to control.

Keep posting thought provoking materials.

I read the first 2-3 responses in that thread and just backed away laughing and weeping simultaneously. I just can't be bothered. It is just not worth the freaking effort or the migraine that will ALWAYS accompany trying to educate such a hopeless group of people.

but I read through the thread you linked here. The level of ignorance is downright appalling. I can only applaud those of you courageous enough to make the effort to enlighten if not educate.

K&R

The level of ignorance is bad enough - but their certainty of their superior knowledge and complete sense of entitlement in lecturing others about it is what really gets to me.

But I am pleased that one of the most reactionary ones came around and seems interested in really learning something. And I've gotten a couple of emails from people who say they are going to do some more research to learn about this, so that's a good thing.

I think I should try to stay out of there tomorrow. It's going to be ugly and it may be too much for my spirit to withstand . . .

The arrogance of some our more vocal Duers is hard for me to take also, and I simply gave up reading those threads. Whether courage or insanity, I do admire those who go toe-to-toe trying to balance the discussion and do a little teaching. This AA group has some of the smartest people on DU and it hurts when they are dismissed and disrespected.

Keep your head down tomorrow!

If Hillary wins, this place will explode - and the hate, vitriol and conspiracy theories will be off the charts. If Sanders wins, the obnoxious will be knee-deep.

Wonder what it'll be like if O'Malley bests one or both candidates?

Read his response today

or something about how he moved on to more important matters than race and it would have gotten a bunch of supporters and recs.

When I see your name I know the discussion is going to be good (and when I see names of other AA members of course). Haven't looked at that particular thread yet, have to lightly anesthetize myself with adult beverages first, just in case.

Usually along the lines of "I didn't know that so many squirrels were allowed to race along so many of America's keyboards" but it seems like you learned pretty close to the same lesson!

Sorry, about this, Empowerer.

we have segregation in housing RIGHT NOW . and these fuckers actually want to compare this college dorm issue into jim crow ??????????

and many of them are the ones who always downplay REAL issues of discrimination and complain about political correctness.and over sensitivity .

FUCKING IDIOTS .

Were in there killing it!

So much fact and reason - so little Common Sense to contend with.

Their behavior is actually turning me off totally, and I hope Sanders loses BIG tonight and in NH.

If he doesn't he will come the SC primaries.

one candidate and the current actions of another making it impossible for someone like you?

I am asking in sincere curiosity.

By current actions, I guess I mean of the supporters, not the candidate.

Then, their supporters are not making things easier.

I'm stuck with no one for the primary. I'll vote for candidates on the down ticket, but I will skip casting a vote for a primary candidate.

before we would have single payer, infrastructure or fighter jets, we would have reparations for AA and JA and NA.

final straw for me on his campaign. Prior to that, I was going to hold my nose and consider voting for him.

Dealing with **some** of his so-called "white liberal" supporters doesn't make his case provocative for me.

I will be censored, it is amazing to see that many white people just lecture you.

Fucking sickening, actually

is picked.

I was chased into AA and barely missed a hide here for making a factual statement, i survived by one vote, here in AA.

so it is BARELY safe here.

I will read the thread, but again, as I am a liberal I dare NOT post there.

My favorite was when I was told that if Muhammad Ali was politically active he would be for Bernie Sanders. The presumptuousness and sense of entitlement that allows someone who doesn't really know the first damn thing about him to appropriate his legacy is mind boggling.

I hope nobody presumes to speak for him but himself.

"It was (that DUer's) 'understanding' that Muhammad Ali was firmly in support of Bernie."

I asked where that DUer got his/her information; but, they have yet to respond. Perhaps, that DUer has me on ignore ... so, maybe you should ask that DUer again. I'm really curious.

I'll go!

Now I have to hunt around to find these threads. See what happens when I take a few days off?

maybe they can weigh in on Johnny Cash and Jesus too....

Sounds like a job for logical fallacy ref!

in reaction to hearing of Franken's endorsement.

Or at least of one of their trainings. I still send them a few $$$ now and then. Dirty Clinton supporter and oligarch that I am

I also volunteered with Working Families on behalf a VERY conservative Democrat once too. It was one of the few competitive congressional districts, the split was razor thin that year and we needed him to win to retain control of the House.

But yeah, revolutions are never incremental, no one ever compromises and they know what is in everyone's mind What I think, if they had ever really fought, they would know that in the trenches, mostly you like the person who has your back. Pretty talk is not enough.

and learned so much from you in that thread.

Thank you!

Is an uggly form of repression.

than Bernie Sanders, if he isnt the nominee.

Bernie, unlike some, is well aware of the absolute madness which would ensue if the cons took over all power.

You can hear it in Thom Hartmann's voice, each time he talks about electing Bernie, he ALWAYS now adds " but if Hillary is the nominee she will be thousands times better than the cons"

He knows, he knows what is at stake.

you taught me something about Charles Hamilton Houston, for which I am grateful

I am reading through that thread bit by bit.... Shocking how differently people can view a subject.

him. Most have not even heard of him.

He was known in the black community as "The Man Who Killed Jim Crow."

He also said, "A lawyer is either a social engineer or he is a parasite on society."

He was Thurgood Marshall's professor, law school dean and mentor.

An amazing, remarkable, brilliant man.

Recommend the best book or article that gives me an overview of his life. A long form article would be best since my reading list is impossibly crowded right now, but I do love biographies and memoirs too.

Also would help if I spent less time talking smack on the DU! I always think, Oh, I will log out soon and go read, and then it is too late to start anything serious the next time I look. Bet no one else here EVER has that problem, right?

"Simple Justice" by Richard Kluger - traces the path to Brown v. Board of Education

"Charles Houston: The Man Who Ended Jim Crow"

For these links and your continued fight against the ignorance.

I had never heard of Charles Hamilton Houston before this thread.

That's shameful on my part and inexcusable for all the schools I attended

Everybody is so sure they know exactly how King would vote, who he would support, etc. I mean, we even have Republican Tea Party types proposing they are the natural heirs to the legacy. I guess anybody can claim anything these days.

a political candidate.