Think of the THOUSANDS of black students, those who are supposedly SO much better off under the protective wing of HRC, who would not face a lifetime of unpayable debt because of unaffordable for-profit colleges. Our lives can no longer be lived in service to the 1%. It's too fucking expensive.

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so if it was mainly about money wouldn't they already decide to go to the state college ?

Not necessarily. There are over 100 HBCUs with many of them state entities (or Universities). Also, in some states it's actually easier to get financial aid for a higher-costing institution than it is for lower cost college, university, or even a community college. Sometimes a higher-costing institution will have more financial incentives and programs for lower income students.

I understand the point you are trying to make about student choices with limited financial resources, but you really have to consider what state the student is coming from, how well they did in High School or Community College, if they were coming from the armed forces, and which school they are applying for and are qualified to enter. All of these factors go into if a particular institution is affordable.

Back to your original point, I would answer No, HBCUs - in general - are not "much more expensive" than PWIs. Of course there are some very expensive HBCUs as well as some very affordable 'public' HBCUs.

and it's one reason i wish he would have talked more with the AA community .

In the 5-second sound bite world we live in, it's hard to delve into all the intricacies of some issues. There is a delicate balance between Community Colleges, HBCUs, State Institutions and Private (non-profits). California's system (for financial aid, admission, etc) is much different than say, Alabama's, or Mississippi, or Florida's. This is why I says it depends. It would be very difficult to do a blanket legislation for Higher-Ed costs when there are very few States aligned with each other's cost and budgeting model.

I like the topic (notwithstanding the first reply ), and I love your disposition and approach...thank you!

(This is a great example of why so many folks in the AA Forum are begging others to engage in discussion rather than lectures or throwing grenades.)

and it's full of ignorance and conspiracy theories.

i wish people could discuss the issues beyond the primary sanders v clinton.

my original criticism with the free college plan had more to do with how it will mostly benefit students who already have it better than others students yet those students at a disadvantage will not get the benefit but still pay taxes to support the students who had better earlier education.

CAN under the Sanders plan - CAN the HBCU's still accept marginalized students?

I know you are familiar with redlining's long term impact so I'm going to jump to -

Does an Abigail Fisher go to the head of the line for acceptance because she had her posh Sugar Land Texas public education?


Or do we still get to ensure that a poor girl from Camden gets into Spelman AND stays on track with a 4 year degree because traditionally - YES - our more expensive private schools are just that - BUT - they also provide slots and assistance with tutors and such to make sure that person who was DELIBERATELY fucked over by American segregation can succeed?


I just don't have trust in America.