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Related: About this forumNo, Mr. President, We Do Not Need to Learn How to Compromise
At a youth town hall in London, England on Saturday, April 23, 2016, President Obama said that activists specifically Black Lives Matter activists need to be willing to compromise. He also claimed that the tone of some activism can turn people off to its message.
You have a responsibility to prepare an agenda that is achievable, Obama told the crowd.
But achievable by whom, and in whose eyes?
People wonder why Im no fan of this POTUS. Where would the Marriage Equality movement be in this country if we in the struggle to achieve marriage equality in all 50 states learned to compromise? Some may recall the amicus curiae brief Obamas DOJ filed in Windsor v. United States, which advocated for a ruling in favor of Edie Windsor but limiting the scope to that particular plaintiff a breadcrumb, if you will.
That brief further argued that each state should make up its own mind on the issue of marriage equality. Indeed, had the Supreme Court followed that line of thought, wed be battling it out in the states for the next fifty or so years or more a piecemeal approach, to be certain.
Anyone who has studied progressive social justice movements knows that compromise is a way for the power elite and the establishment to maintain their power and to prevent real reform from reshaping the power structure. Its a means for those in power to remain in power, giving people just barely enough to keep them from launching a full-on revolt.
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RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Obama, however, is in power. And we are not at the table and he hasn't set one up.... yet.
If you are invited to the table, then yes, have an agenda. Since we are not at any table, yet, all we have is the street. On the street it is quite clear what our agenda is: Justice.
Obama needs to set up a table and bring both sides to it then we can go from there.
JI7
(89,252 posts)he isn't apart from the rest of the black population in dealing with racism.
but this is claiming his words have something to do with maintaining some power structure which makes no sense .
Number23
(24,544 posts)But having said that, I have no idea why Obama would say this to BLM activists. Compromise on what?
And I love the Bernie Sanders high five in the piece. Bernie has "called" for a lot of stuff in his time, I'm sure. Delivering on it is an entirely separate issue.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Voting and Civil Rights legislation came about - but the trade off was no reparations and the Vietnam War.
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Number23
(24,544 posts)But we are smart/realistic/practical enough not to toss out the whole shabam because we're not getting everything we want on Day 1.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Jesse Jackson was right when he said that this administration likes to talk down to black people. He does this because he knows we're not organized and don't use our money to bribe the politicians so on some level he doesn't respect us. We're still getting killed by cops in the streets but Obama is more likely to say something positive about transsexuals getting to use the bathroom of their choice than say anything positive about dealing with racial injustice.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)That's what I'm talking about!!!!
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)or respects us in either party. Liberals use us as mules for everyone else's causes but offer us nothing in return and republicans at best ignore us and at worst encourage people to violate our rights.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Best form of activism. politicians constantly criticized gay activists but had we not pushed, we'd never get anywhere.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)so maybe if we turn out in equal numbers for congressional races as we do for POTUS, then we won't have to to reason much with the unreasonable. Otherwise have fun storming the castle and fall to the wayside of so many revolutions that give the masses so little in return or left us worse off.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)and we've been saying that for many, many years. It would really help if they voted.
Sunday, Bernie Sanders offered host Chuck Todd a simple explanation for his having lost 16 of the 17 states with the highest levels of income inequality.
"Poor people don't vote," he said. "I mean, that's just a fact. That's a sad reality of American society."
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kwassa
(23,340 posts)or even know who he is?
Stellar
(5,644 posts)Maybe they all support Hillary. I don't care one way or the other.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)The less income inequality, the better he did.That can't be explained as "poor people voting against their self-interest" unless you're also willing to say that wealthy people voted against theirs, too."
But let's connect the dots a little better than Sanders does. Every study on voter turnout I've read concludes that low turnout among the poor is not just because people are poor and don't want to, millions of people simply can't.
The system is overly bureaucratic with unnecessarily restrictive registration procedures, which work to dissuade people from voting. Something as simple and common as moving within the same state jeopardizes voter eligibility due to registration requirements. Studies show that people of color, young people, and lower-income people move more often, leaving them more vulnerable to not being properly registered to vote.http://www.demos.org/data-byte/voter-turnout-income-2008-us-presidential-election
But even in states where politicians are not actively working to distort their electorate, our current system of voter registration creates barriers to voting that serve no significant purpose for democracy while excluding tens of millions of potential voters from the political process.
Fortunately, there is a solution. Starting with the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and continuing through the lesser-known National Voter Registration Act, federal policy has enabled significant progress in fostering a more inclusive electorate. In the following report, Dēmos lays out a detailed policy blueprint for the next, overdue reform in our democracy: universal registration through an automatic registration system, where the government registers eligible citizens to vote after confirming their eligibility based on information it is already receiving.
Demos legal strategists have been working with over a dozen state governments to optimize enforcement of the National Voter Registration Act in the places where lower-income citizens are more likely to interact with the government: public assistance agencies and health insurance exchanges (and not just Departments of Motor Vehicles). Demos policy blueprint for Automatic Voter Registration builds on our and our partners experience of state NVRA implementation. The potential is huge: if every state followed the lead of Oregon, which has established the first automatic voter registration system in the country, Demos calculates that approximately 27 million people would immediately gain access to elections.http://www.demos.org/publication/automatic-voter-registration-finding-americas-missing-voters
Furthermore, it should be emphasized that is not only the poor who do not vote. By validating survey data (comparing what an individual says about voting to their actual voter file) and analyzing a massive database of voter files, the authors are able to give the clearest picture of turnout that has ever been documented. Their findings are rather stunning: they suggest that turnout may well be even more stratified by income, race and gender than previously suspected.http://www.demos.org/blog/12/11/15/demographic-divides-voter-turnout
There is a lot to unpack on this issue that goes much further than Sanders' excuse for losing. Sanders has lost Democratic voters with household incomes below $50,000 by 55 percent to 44 percent to Clinton across primaries where network exit polls have been conducted. In other words, if more poor people voted, Bernie would lose more ground to Hillary.http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-blames-losses-on-poor-people-not-voting/
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)now bumpersticker!!!