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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:59 PM Apr 2016

If I may step in, I want to share something that I find fascinating

I'm going to post a, well, post that I keep updating in GDP below, but first a few quick words. Awhile back I made a challenge to myself, can I take a fairly decent run at predicting the outcome of state primaries/caucuses by looking at only a single factor. After a lot of thought, including open vs closed primaries, primaries vs caucuses, young vs old etc, I landed on % of a state's population that is black. Not Democratic population or total non-white population, just straight up what % of the state's total is black.

The reason I ultimately chose this factor is because, from the early races on, this demographic had overwhelmingly voted in one direction--it didn't matter if the state was Northern or Southern, primary or caucus or even if Clinton won or lost--black voters, in all cases, went heavily to Hillary.

So, I devised a simple model that predicted whether Hillary would win or not simply by how large the black population is within that state. Basically, were there enough black people in a state to push the result to Clinton.

This may seem simplistic or overly broad, but, well, up to this point the model has worked very well. I first posted it eleven states ago, and it has successfully predicted the outcome of all 11 states. In other words, simply knowing how large the black population is has allowed a model to pick winners with 100% accuracy through 11 contests.

I'd like to think this shows just how vital the black vote is to would-be Democratic representatives and, maybe, in the future all candidates running for national office will take the necessary steps to win over what looks to be the single most influential and powerful demographic group of the 2016 race.

I will be recalibrating the model for May sometime before Indiana votes, which may change predictions for a few of the states. I'll post the revised model here in a few days, if there is interest in seeing it. At any rate, what follows is my original model and predictions:

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Hypothesis: Simply by analyzing the percentage of a state's population that is black, I believe you can fairly accurately predict the "winner" of a state in upcoming primaries and caucuses. There will be misses, I am sure, but I'm bored, so let's see how this works out. I'll bump the thread and fill in actual results (With insightful commentary like, "Boy, that one was wrong!&quot as primaries go on...assuming people are interested in my validation or humiliation, as the case may be.

So let's begin with states that have already voted

Your key for numbers below:
State Rank for Black Pop. State % of Pop. that is Black

All numbers from 2010 Census

Bernie Wins
44 NH 1.22%
33 CO 4.28%
31 MN 4.57%
26 OK 7.96%
49 VT 0.87%
29 KS 6.15%
32 NE 4.50%
47 ME 1.03%
16 MI 14.24%
48 ID 0.95%
43 UT 1.27%

Avg Black Pop 4.28%
At +1 Standard Deviation 8.38%

Hillary Wins
40 IA 2.68%
23 NV 9.00%
5 SC 28.48%
6 AL 26.38%
12 AR 15.76%
3 GA 31.4%
25 MA 8.1%
10 TN 16.78%
18 TX 11.91%
9 VA 19.91%
2 LA 32.4%
1 MS 37.30%
11 FL 15.91%
14 IL 14.88%
19 MO 11.49%
7 NC 21.60%
17 OH 12.04%
35 AZ 4.16%

Avg Black Pop 17.79%
At -1 Standard Deviation 7.80%


Prediction Methodology: If a state's black population is less than Bernie's 1 St Dev number, I predict he wins. If it is more than Hillary's 1 St Dev number, I predict she wins.

So my straight up, no commentary predictions (Note: this isn't a prediction of margin of victory, just who comes out on top as the state's winner. I also do not include territories):

34 AK 4.27% Bernie Correct
38 HI 3.08% Bernie Correct
36 WA 3.74% Bernie Correct
30 WI 6.07% Bernie Correct
42 WY 1.29% Bernie Correct
13 NY 15.18% Hillary Correct
21 CT 10.34% Hillary Correct
8 DE 20.95% Hillary Correct
4 MD 30.1% Hillary Correct
20 PA 10.79% Hillary Correct
27 RI 7.5% Bernie Correct
22 IN 9.07% Hillary
37 WV 3.58% Bernie
24 KY 8.2% Hillary
41 OR 2.01% Bernie
28 CA 6.67% Bernie
50 MT 0.67% Bernie
15 NJ 14.46% Hillary
39 NM 2.97% Bernie
46 ND 1.08% Bernie
45 SD 1.14% Bernie
** DC 50.7% Hillary

Now there will be some misses here, because the two data sets overlap in the 2nd Standard Deviation (Mean+2*StDev vs Mean -2*StDev), so the question will become which states and in which direction. That said, misses should favor Hillary as her Standard Deviation is over twice as wide as Bernie's (Wider standard deviation means more variation in the numbers. In this case, wider Deviation means Clinton has been more successful among a wider variation in black population than Bernie).

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If I may step in, I want to share something that I find fascinating (Original Post) Godhumor Apr 2016 OP
I hope that California will prove to be an exception to your rule because of the high number pnwmom Apr 2016 #1
Yep, i believe the Hispanic/Latino vote was the difference in Arizona. 38.6% in California. Deuce Apr 2016 #3
It was also a factor in NV BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #9
Interesting...i have been looking at the 2014 Census QuickFacts by state. Deuce Apr 2016 #2
I think CA will rely more on the Latino vote Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #4
I'm in Northern California.... FrenchieCat Apr 2016 #5
Great OP JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #6
K&R Well done! Kind of Blue Apr 2016 #7
Very interesting, Godhumor. brer cat Apr 2016 #8
i think you should look at hispanics as well for Cali and NM La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #10
I agree California is most likely going to be a miss Godhumor Apr 2016 #11

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
1. I hope that California will prove to be an exception to your rule because of the high number
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:50 AM
Apr 2016

of Hispanics living there.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
9. It was also a factor in NV
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:11 AM
Apr 2016

and TX. So I believe that Hillary can win in CA and NM if the Hispanic/Latino vote is factored in and may even help somewhat with OR, although probably not enough for a win there.

Whatever ... it's a very interesting OP!

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
4. I think CA will rely more on the Latino vote
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:25 AM
Apr 2016
http://capitolweekly.net/ca120-voter-surge-now-california/

The X factor in discussing race and the election, is shared experience with oppression. It doesn't manifest all in the same way, but I think demographics will still be a factor here.

CA is a minority majority state. We also went for HRC in 2008, which surprised this Obama voter.

We also have mail in voting, so whatever Bernie thinks he is going to do in 5 weeks is going to be negated by the fact that many of us are going to start voting in a couple of weeks.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
5. I'm in Northern California....
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:04 AM
Apr 2016

I think Bernie will take most of Northern Cal less Silicon Valley, with Hillary taking most of southern Cal....IMO! I think Hillary will win. The Black vote won't be the deciding factor as much as the Latino vote...

In '08, the primary was in March, and Edwards was still in...and so were some of the others...

Here's an analysis of demographics CA 2008
DEMOCRATS

Mrs. Clinton won the hard-fought Democratic race in California, where both she and Mr. Obama had sought the state's wealth of 370 delegates to be chosen on Tuesday. According to early returns, Mrs. Clinton had strong showings in Los Angeles, Santa Clara and San Diego. Early exit polls showed Mr. Obama running strongly among African-Americans, white men, younger voters and liberals. Mrs. Clinton did well among Hispanics, white women, moderates and those who described themselves as "somewhat conservative." Those who identified themselves as Democrats tended to choose Mrs. Clinton; "independents or something else" overwhelmingly voted for Mr. Obama. A majority of Californians who were surveyed said they made up their minds in the last month. The economy was ranked most often as the top issue facing the nation, followed by the war in Iraq and health care. There were signs that both Democratic camps were growing polarized; only half of the voters said they would be satisfied if either candidate became the nominee.

Based on questionnaires filled out by voters across the state.
% of total Clinton Obama
25 White men 33 60
28 White women 53 40
13 Latino men 62 37
16 Latino women 69 30

Graphic Graphic: Complete Profile of the Primary Voters
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/CA.html

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
6. Great OP
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:53 AM
Apr 2016

Rec! NJ will go HRC. No doubt. Interesting info on California.

There are many black women in CA who CAN vote. We are solid voters (regardless of the election in question and or political affiliation). Older white men are our peers. With the mix of Hispanic/Latino in CA - that's going to be an interesting primary. We will see these two pivot hard to win the Latino/Hispanic vote and I think that's a good thing.

Let this large block of New Americans (as O'Malley named them) be heard. I'd like to see a clear definition of their top concerns on the platform. The time is now. They are the new Germans (largest nationality of immigrants through closing of Ellis Island).

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
7. K&R Well done!
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:46 AM
Apr 2016

I'm terrible with graphs and charts and stuff. So I really appreciate clear cut analysis
Thanks for stepping in

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
11. I agree California is most likely going to be a miss
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

But I want to see how accurate it is across all remaining contests without modifying for individual states.

I might do a CA only model which would be a broader variable one separate from this model if the race looks competitive come June, though.

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