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Auggie

(31,177 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:25 AM Jun 2012

The line on Matt Cain's Perfect Game

9 IP, 14K, 125 pitches total

The night was also highlighted by outstanding defensive plays by Melke Cabrera in LF, Gregor Blanco in RF and Joaquin Arias at 3rd.

As posted elsewhere, it's the first perfect game in Giants franchise history.

On edit: Cain said in post game interviews that he didn't shake off any of catcher Buster Posey's pitches. Belated congrats to Posey for calling a great game.

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hughee99

(16,113 posts)
1. Congrats to Cain, Posey, the Giants and their fans.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 02:23 AM
Jun 2012

Perfect game today, US Open tomorrow. A good sports week in SF.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
3. The Arias play on the final ball wasn't easy...
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 08:05 AM
Jun 2012

In fact, I don't think Pablo would have made it, but considering the circumstances and the difficulty, Blanco's catch will go down as one of the greatest in Giants history.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22275319&topic_id=11493214

Matt Cain is most deserving of achieving the distinction of pitching the first ever Giants perfect game. He's all Giant.

After the game Kuiper said a perfect game was a team accomplishment..certainly true last night.



El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
4. How boring!
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:04 PM
Jun 2012

5 no hitters already this year. 2 perfect games.

I think they should only count American League no hitters because it's harder to do with a DH.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
6. No, only no-hitters (or any other record) should count in the Nationa League
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 02:51 PM
Jun 2012

Because that is where baseball is played.

And what's boring about no-hitters and perfect games? Were Sandy Koufax or Nolan Ryan not players who could thrill fans?

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
7. "Is the no-hitter becoming so common that it's losing its luster?"
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 03:03 PM
Jun 2012

Flurry of no-hitters and perfect games reflect changes in baseball
Tom Verducci SI.com

Is the no-hitter becoming so common that it's losing its luster? Over the past three seasons, no-hitters are about as common as your cable bill: they come almost once a month. The perfect game by Matt Cain Wednesday in San Francisco was the 14th no-hitter in the past 2 1/3 seasons.

Back at the start of May, when Jered Weaver threw the second no-hitter of this season, I wrote, "At the rate we're going these past three years, you can expect three or four more no-hitters before the season is over." I didn't expect we would get three more just within a 13-day span this month.

This seems crazy, but it's actually nothing we haven't seen before. You just have to go all the way back to the late 1960s, when hitting was so bad they had to make two huge rules changes: they lowered the mound (1969) and added the designated hitter (1973). It is tougher to get a hit in the major leagues this season (.253) than any season since 1972 (.244), the last year without a DH.

How much more common have no-hitters become in the past three years? This quick look at the rate of no-hitters in the Modern Era will give you an idea:

1901-2009: 1 every 794 games

2010-2012: 1 every 414 games

The rest at: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tom_verducci/06/14/no.hitter.craze/index.html

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
8. The short answer to that question is "No"
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 07:13 PM
Jun 2012

The long answer is that a baseball game that uses the DH is an obvious oxymoron, so further use of the DH is not a cure for anything wrong with baseball. It is the death of baseball.

Mr. Verducci makes some curious statements in his arguments. First of all, I didn't know that hitting in the late 1960s was "so bad." This was an era that featured Willie Mays, Hank Aaron and Roberto Clemente. They were at least as good as anything since, to include Reggie Jackson, Jose Canseco and Manny Ramirez. Oh, yes, and Barry Bonds.

Second, since the DH has been used in the American League since 1973, it would seem that the use of DH has little or no effect on Mr. Verducci perceived decline of hitting in recent years. In fact, given that the DH only modestly increases run production, it has had very little effect on the offensive side of the game. It the only real thing use of the DH has accomplished is the dumming down of the game.

Maybe the real cause of this perceived phenomenon is that juiced up hitters are out of the game by now. However, Mr. Verducci says:


Go back to 2000 -- the height of The Steroid Era -- and the major league average was .270 with 10.28 runs scored per game. Now it's .253 and 8.60 runs per game. That's a 16 percent cutback in scoring. In raw numbers, based on projected numbers for this year, that means pitchers have removed 4,086 runs and 3,461 hits from a baseball season.

link:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tom_verducci/06/14/no.hitter.craze/index.html#ixzz1xoPGieOF|Sports Illustrated]

So, is he trying to say that steroid use was good for baseball? Or even DH-ball?



JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
11. Someone on the local news mentioned
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jun 2012

Amphetamines ban is a possible reason for the rise of no-hitters/perfect games. Position players are more fatigued day-to-day when the amphetamines would wake them up while the pitchers are more rested.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
9. I'm interested to see how he follows it up.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 03:04 PM
Jun 2012

If I remember right, Humber and Johan Santana both followed up their performances with clunkers. Weaver had a decent game after his, but then was awful in his next start after that. If I remember right, after Buehrle followed up his PG with a series of bad outings in '09, but Halliday was good after his PG in '10. I don't recall what Dallas Braden did after his PG in '10.

I guess we'll find out tonight.

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