Only one.

Then they rewarded my patience twice!

But I ain't pickin' against Baltimore at home.........

They simply are not as good as people think...

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2012/12/team-efficiency-rankings-week-15.html

http://mule.he.net/~budsport/pub/killer.php (they slipped to #2 behind SF in YPPA differential)

Their SOS of opponents faced so far is tougher than Houston, slightly lower than Baltimore, ahead of Indianapolis & tied w/ Pittsburgh. You'll point out, that's because they lost to Atlanta, New England, and Houston. Does this team seem like the same team that will dig itself a huge hole early only to make it look like it was a close game at the end? In the end, schedule doesn't matter but how good a team is and both of those stats above indicate they're pretty damn good.

On edit - if you want to see a slightly above average team that's played a weak schedule, look at Atlanta, .391 record of opponents faced thus far.

I see a first round loss at home in their future. I agree about Atlanta...they really were shown for what they are last week.

Chargers.



You take those wins away, and they are a 4-3 team.

Green Bay / 3 / CHICAGO------------------Green Bay
ATLANTA / 1.5 / NY Giants-----------------NY Giants
ST. LOUIS / 3 / Minnesota-----------------Minnesota
Washington / 1 / CLEVELAND--------------Washington
Denver / 2.5 / BALTIMORE-----------------Baltimore
HOUSTON / 8.5 / Indianapolis--------------Indianapolis
Seattle / 5.5 / BUFFALO-------------------Seattle
Pittsburgh / 1.5 / DALLAS------------------Dallas
NEW ENGLAND / 5.5 / San Francisco--------New England

I'm slowly swirling down the terlit with my picks..........hopefully I come back strong this weekend........

I've really sucked this year,

GB
Giants
Minn
Cle
Den
Indy
Sea
Pitt
NE

Race to the Bottom!!

For second tier, I'll begin using percentage for Goblin and for whoever else falls to second tier.

RK. Member (REC) PCT (WNP) LWR
1. Auggie (64-48) .571 - 1
2. mythology (59-53) .527 - 2
3. RagAss (49-46) .516 (1,10) 4
4. thelordofhell (51-52) .495 (1) 3
5. InternalDialogue (54-58) .482 - 5
6. flvegan (54-58) .482 - t5
7. Liberal_Dog (52-60) .464 - 7
8. JonLP24 (47-56) .456 (1) 9
9. Condem (51-61) .455 - 10
10. many a good man (46-58) .442 (13) 8
11. anakie (45-67) .402 - 11
12. RockaFowler (43-69) .384 - 12
13. PRETZEL (43-69) .384 - t12
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Second tier

RK Member (REC) (WNP)
1. Goblinmonger (43-44) .494 (6,11,13)
2. trumad (8-17) (4-14)
3. getting old in mke (7-2) (2-14)
4. ahg (5-11) (2,4-14)
5. adairporter (3-5) (1,3-14)

Green Bay
NY Giants
ST. LOUIS
CLEVELAND
BALTIMORE
HOUSTON
Seattle
DALLAS
San Francisco

Chicago
NY Giants
Minnesota
Washington
Denver
Indianapolis
Seattle
Pittsburgh
San Francisco




Green Bay / 3 / CHICAGO
ATLANTA / 1.5 / NY Giants
ST. LOUIS / 3 / Minnesota
Washington / 1 / CLEVELAND
Denver / 2.5 / BALTIMORE
HOUSTON / 8.5 / Indianapolis
Seattle / 5.5 / BUFFALO
Pittsburgh / 1.5 / DALLAS
NEW ENGLAND / 5.5 / San Francisco

Green Bay
NY Giants
Minnesota
Cleveland
Denver
Indianapolis
Seattle
Pittsburgh
San Francisco

Green Bay / 3 / CHICAGO - Green Bay
ATLANTA / 1.5 / NY Giants - Atlanta
ST. LOUIS / 3 / Minnesota - Minnesota
Washington / 1 / CLEVELAND - Washington
Denver / 2.5 / BALTIMORE - Baltimore
HOUSTON / 8.5 / Indianapolis - Indi
Seattle / 5.5 / BUFFALO - Seattle
Pittsburgh / 1.5 / DALLAS - Pittsburg
NEW ENGLAND / 5.5 / San Francisco - New England

Good luck all

could be trickier than first impressions. On Monday, I figured, what the hell? I'll check out the Kansas City-Cleveland recap. I found out that they were on a 3 game winning streak (admittedly not against the greatest of teams) w/ Richardson and Weeden having solid rookie seasons. A closer inspection reveals that the last game before the 3-game winning streak was the game against Dallas, which they easily could have won. Looking at the schedule Cleveland has 1 big loss @ NY Giants and 2 10-point losses vs Baltimore & Buffalo. They were in almost all their games and the most revealing thing is the scores allowed, 2 scores over 30, 17 points allowed in 2 losses, and scores of 23, 14, 17, and 7 in last 4 games. It is actually the game I'm struggling the most to select mainly because it is in Cleveland. In Landover, I'd comfortably pick Washington. This doesn't even factor the questionable Griffin.

Chicago
Atlanta
St. Louis
Cleveland
Denver
Indianapolis
Buffalo
Dallas (wow Pitt is favored here?)
San Francisco

from what I saw. Perhaps they've improved. That should happen as a young team plays more.

The Toilet Bowl or Irrelevant Bowl 2012

Green Bay
NY Giants
ST. LOUIS
CLEVELAND
BALTIMORE
Indianapolis
Seattle
Pittsburgh
San Francisco

for them next year!!

Green Bay / 3 / CHICAGO
ATLANTA / 1.5 / NY Giants
ST. LOUIS / 3 / Minnesota
Washington / 1 / CLEVELAND
Denver / 2.5 / BALTIMORE
HOUSTON / 8.5 / Indianapolis
Seattle / 5.5 / BUFFALO
Pittsburgh / 1.5 / DALLAS
NEW ENGLAND / 5.5 / San Francisco

Green Bay / 3 / CHICAGO-----Green Bay
ATLANTA / 1.5 / NY Giants-----Atlanta
ST. LOUIS / 3 / Minnesota-----Minnesota
Washington / 1 / CLEVELAND-----Cleveland
Denver / 2.5 / BALTIMORE-----Baltimore
HOUSTON / 8.5 / Indianapolis-----Houston
Seattle / 5.5 / BUFFALO-----Buffalo
Pittsburgh / 1.5 / DALLAS-----DALLAS
NEW ENGLAND / 5.5 / San Francisco-----New England

Green Bay
NY Giants
Minnesota
Cleveland
Denver
Indianapolis
Seattle
Pittsburgh
New England

Green Bay
Atlanta
Minnesota
Cleveland
Denver
Indianapolis
Buffalo
Pittsburgh
San Francisco

Green Bay
Gints
Minnesota
Washington
Denver
Houston
Seattle
Dallas
New England

Condem, with a record of 7-2! Well-played!



many a good man is runner-up at 6-3.

See you all next Thursday morning. Condem: please send me a game by Wednesday PM.

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Favorite--00 / Spread / Underdog--00 / WINNER

Green Bay--21 / 3 / CHICAGO--13 / GREEN BAY
ATLANTA--34 / 1.5 / NY Giants--0 / ATLANTA
ST. LOUIS--22 / 3 / Minnesota--36 / MINNESOTA
Washington--38/ 1 / CLEVELAND--21 / WASHINGTON
Denver--34 / 2.5 / BALTIMORE--17 / DENVER
HOUSTON--29 / 8.5 / Indianapolis--17 / HOUSTON
Seattle--50 / 5.5 / BUFFALO--17 / SEATTLE
Pittsburgh--24 / 1.5 / DALLAS--27 / DALLAS
NEW ENGLAND--34 / 5.5 / San Francisco--41 / SAN FRANCISCO
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Condem: 7W / 2L

W—Green Bay
L—Gints
W—Minnesota
W—Washington
W—Denver
W—Houston
W—Seattle
W—Dallas
L—New England
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many a good man: 6W / 3L

W—Green Bay
W—ATLANTA
L—ST. LOUIS
L—CLEVELAND
L—BALTIMORE
W—HOUSTON
W—Seattle
W—DALLAS
W—San Francisco
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anakie: 5W / 4L

W—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
W—Minnesota
W—Washington
L—Baltimore
L—Indianapolis
W—Seattle
L—Pittsburg
L—New England
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Auggie: 5W / 4L

W—Green Bay
W—Atlanta
W—Minnesota
L—Cleveland
W—Denver
L—Indianapolis
L—Buffalo
L—Pittsburgh
W—San Francisco
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InternalDialogue: 5W / 4L

L—Chicago
L—NY Giants
W—Minnesota
W—Washington
W—Denver
L—Indianapolis
W—Seattle
L—Pittsburgh
W—San Francisco
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mythology: 5W / 4L

W—Green Bay
L—NY Giants
W—Minnesota
L—Cleveland
W—Denver
L—Indianapolis
W—Seattle
L—Pittsburgh
W—San Francisco
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RagAss: 5W / 4L

W—Green Bay
L—NY Giants
L—ST. LOUIS
L—CLEVELAND
L—BALTIMORE
W—HOUSTON
W—Seattle
W—DALLAS
W—San Francisco
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thelordofhell: 5W / 4L

W—Green Bay
L—NY Giants
W—Minnesota
W—Washington
L—Baltimore
L—Indianapolis
W—Seattle
W— Dallas
L—New England
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JonLP24: 4W / 5L

L—Chicago
W—Atlanta
L—St. Louis
L—Cleveland
W—Denver
L—Indianapolis
L—Buffalo
W—Dallas
W—San Francisco
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PRETZEL: 4W / 5L

W—Green Bay
L—NY Giants
W—Minnesota
L—Cleveland
W—Denver
L—Indianapolis
W—Seattle
L—Pittsburg
L—New England
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flvegan: 4W / 5L

W—Green Bay
L—NY Giants
W—Minnesota
L—Cleveland
W—Denver
L—Indianapolis
W—Seattle
L—Pittsburgh
L—New England
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RockaFowler: 3W / 6L

W—Green Bay
L—NY Giants
L—ST. LOUIS
L—CLEVELAND
L—BALTIMORE
L—Indianapolis
W—Seattle
L—Pittsburgh
W—San Francisco

Sure to be a very big spread.