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The Heat are... (Original Post) El Supremo Jun 2013 OP
...flopping. SoapBox Jun 2013 #1
You mean like Ginobili and Parker were last night RockaFowler Jun 2013 #6
the worst thi g ever... jeffrey_pdx Jun 2013 #2
And that is what is wrong with the NBA Bluzmann57 Jun 2013 #8
The Spurs and Oklahoma City and Indiana are proving that a team can be built mythology Jun 2013 #11
I don't know enough about Wade JonLP24 Jun 2013 #23
back home... trumad Jun 2013 #3
Uh huh. El Supremo Jun 2013 #5
whatever you say Mr Bandwagon trumad Jun 2013 #7
I wish I could find my posts from 6 years ago, the last time the Spurs took it to LeBrawn. El Supremo Jun 2013 #10
BAM! SHRED Jun 2013 #4
Heck of a series. H2O Man Jun 2013 #9
Where can I buy that toaster? Scurrilous Jun 2013 #12
San Antonio appliance stores are selling them like hot cakes. El Supremo Jun 2013 #13
Thanks! Scurrilous Jun 2013 #14
Where can I get one of these? >> El Supremo Jun 2013 #15
You really have a strange fixation with LeBron RockaFowler Jun 2013 #16
Want! Dr. Strange Jun 2013 #17
Game #6 H2O Man Jun 2013 #18
That's a painful loss BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #19
...lucky. bluedigger Jun 2013 #20
sometimes ya gotta have luck... trumad Jun 2013 #21
Dewey defeats Truman? Initech Jun 2013 #22
Champs trumad Jun 2013 #24
So what does that make the Spurs? KamaAina Jun 2013 #25

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
6. You mean like Ginobili and Parker were last night
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jun 2013

Those 2 are 2 of the most dramatic guys I've ever seen. Or Diaw every time a foul was called on him he looked around like he was in shock.

The only reason the Spurs are ahead right now is great play by Danny Green who has hit more 3s than anyone I have ver seen. It's a thing of beauty.

But to be honest they haven't won anything yet. The series is back in Miami and that is where the Heat will take over completely.

jeffrey_pdx

(222 posts)
2. the worst thi g ever...
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 01:36 AM
Jun 2013

I don't care about NBA finals too much. I watch them when I can because I like basketball. Something needs to be done to let small market teams compete. I'm a Blazer fan and there is no way we can get top-dollar free agent. Probably the same in lots of cities. I don't want a league of nothing but NY, Miami, AND LA.


Bluzmann57

(12,336 posts)
8. And that is what is wrong with the NBA
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jun 2013

During the Pacers-Heat series someone held up a sign which said, "Built, not bought" referring to the Pacers. That was a great sign and stated the major problem in the NBA.
The Timberwolves, Kings, Bucks, etc. simply cannot compete with the big money teams. And ESPN almost never shows anyone but Boston, LA, Miami, and sometimes San Antonio.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
11. The Spurs and Oklahoma City and Indiana are proving that a team can be built
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jun 2013

Yes it's "easier" to buy a team like Miami or Boston did. But that creates a relatively small window of time when a championship can be won. Boston traded for a couple of aging stars, won a championship, but it's also put them in a position to have to rebuild a few years later.

Look at how long the Spurs have been competing for a championship with players they drafted or traded for. They don't bring in expensive free agents. Yes they got lucky to get Tim Duncan, but they also drafted Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli and a host of other less well-known players who fit into their system.

What I think is ruining the NBA is the me-first, get on Sportcenter attitude that the Heat embrace. Dwayne Wade and LeBron James love to get steals and make flashy dunks which get them on the highlight reels, but as is being repeatedly shown in this series, they are bad at basic defense. There's a reason that Danny Green keeps getting open for 3 point shots. The Heat as a team lack the discipline to stay home because they want to get steals and get their highlights because it's "cool". Take in game 2 when LeBron got a big block, I believe on Tiago Splitter, and instead of getting down the court on the fast break he stood and stared out at the crowd to celebrate. It shows LeBron's lack of discipline and willingness to do the right thing even if it's "pointless". The Spurs on the other hand, were able to force LeBron to miss a couple of dunks in the last game by hustling back on turnovers that other teams would have given up on.

Football has the same problem with defenders going for big flashy hits instead of wrapping up or that guy on the Eagles who dropped the ball just short of the end zone because he was showing off.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
23. I don't know enough about Wade
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 07:26 PM
Jun 2013

but Lebron is easily one of the best defenders in the league if not the best.

He allows .84 points per possession which is great. The Heat as team are 5th in the league at .86 PPP.

In individual defensive sets he holds opponents to 37.6% percent shooting.

He is 7th in points allowed per post-up .58

He is 3rd in guarding the roll man in a pick-and-roll at .50.

The Heat's overall defense was better last season but they're still one of the best in the league. Spurs are one of the highest scoring offenses so it is expected they'd have some trouble there.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
5. Uh huh.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 12:45 PM
Jun 2013

No team in the NBA has been as successful in road closeout games.

According to ESPN.com’s Stats & Information twitter feed, the Spurs are 14-2 in potential closeout games on the road since the 2002-03 season, an .875 winning percentage.

The rest of the league is 61-75 during that span for a .449 winning percentage.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/06/17/will-spurs-past-history-favor-them-tuesday-night-in-miami/

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
10. I wish I could find my posts from 6 years ago, the last time the Spurs took it to LeBrawn.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 03:09 PM
Jun 2013

But the archives are unavailable.

H2O Man

(73,552 posts)
9. Heck of a series.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jun 2013

I don't think Miami has played nearly as good as they are capable of. They need to be near that level to bring about Game 7.

I like both teams; each has some outstanding athletes -- obviously -- as well as good people.

H2O Man

(73,552 posts)
18. Game #6
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 12:18 AM
Jun 2013

Outstanding. Both teams played well enough that, at several points, I thought they would win. I liked that it went into overtime.

Can't wait until Thursday. May the best team win!

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
19. That's a painful loss
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 12:26 AM
Jun 2013

And very tough to recover from. Basically, make your foul shots in the last minute and you win that game if you're the Spurs.

Ginoboli was really awful the whole game, which is why he didn't get that call. Rough justice, but it was fair.

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