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Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 03:16 PM Oct 2013

Jon Lester Cheating?

Surprised no one has posed this story here...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/24/jon-lester-vaseline-cardinals-tyler-melling_n_4156376.html?utm_hp_ref=sports&utm_hp_ref=sports

Why would Lester use an almost neon green vaseline when the clear stuff would be much harder to detect? And, while that still pic clearly shows a green substance, the only thing I see in the GIF is Lester's fingers touching the location with his fingers....something, I suspect he does all the time, probably subconsciously as part of his routine. I wonder why the GIF wasn't slowed down to show the green stuff?

Seriously, I don't believe Jon Lester would risk his reputation in a WS game for a marginal improvement on the ball's movement...but I can certainly believe someone could doctor a photo - while accusing Lester of doctoring his pitch.

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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
1. Me neither...this place is lousy with sore losers..
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 03:37 PM
Oct 2013

This is a load of shit, a non-story stared by a worthless minor-league cardinal...fuck him and anyone else who buys this shit.

charlie and algernon

(13,447 posts)
2. even if he did, the Cards did MORE than enough on their own to ensure they'd lose that game
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 04:25 PM
Oct 2013

Hard to raise too big a stink over whether or not someone cheated when the other team played HORRIBLY all by themselve.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
3. I agree....I was really surprised by the overall play of the Cards.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 04:54 PM
Oct 2013

Perhaps it was the jitters of opening at Fenway. Their last meet-up didn't end well, either. I'll be interested to see how Wacha plays tonight. He's been phenomenal in the playoffs, but the pressure is going to be on him to stop Boston and keep the Cards from going 0-2....he's still a rookie and this is going to be the biggest game of his career. Should be interesting.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
4. That game could have been a lot closer...
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 06:11 PM
Oct 2013

bad throws, bad communication, just really, really sloppy play I didn't expect.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
5. In an interview today, Lester said he will not change a thing next time out and
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 08:08 PM
Oct 2013

the rosin will be back in his glove. Harold Reynolds had it right saying this is the norm for the game these days. There is no player asking the Ump to check the baseball or players requesting baseballs be removed from play. What once was common in baseball is no more.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
6. If this was anything in Lester's glove, it was probably rosin.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:12 PM
Oct 2013

It's about control, not about trying to get extra movement on the ball. He could grab the bag, but I see nothing nefarious if this was the case. Maybe MLB will have a problem with this, but if I'm a hitter, I certainly want the pitcher in control of his pitches. Some of us remember what can happen to players who get hit by out-of control pitches...I'm thinking about Tony Conigliaro here.

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