but not clear what it is you're saying.

3rd quarter timeouts came back to bit them
ass but too many missed open field tackles. Stanford up next.

On edit - just saw that UCLA fell to Utah so there may still be hope and Utah looks like they could be in the mix for a South title this year as well.

Someone just reshuffled the deck in the Pac 12


Did you say Youts?

who scored 19 4th quarter points to win by 1 in a wild shootout w/ Washington State who Connor Halliday's 734 passing yards set an FBS record. Cal in conference play so far has been defined by crazy high scoring down to the wire games. Last week was a double overtime victory over Colorado and the week before that they gave up 36 4th quarter points in Tucson which ended on an Arizona hail mary.

Aside from the fact this isn't sustainable, I think Cal is going to hit a wall. They may survive at home vs Washington but after that they face Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Stanford.

I think Mike Leach is in the wrong conference w/ the wrong team. More possessions favor natural favorites which will help the run-orientated spread teams in Oregon, Arizona State, & Arizona. Stanford & USC's physical style will punish their tired defense (which no doubt was the case w/ Cal stealing the victory from them) who are also the best match-ups for the run first spread teams (It surprises me when people are surprised when Oregon loses to Stanford). If Washington turns out anything like Boise State (whose recruiting class pretty much includes Boise State's recruiting class) they'll stomp them as they always had excellent open field tacklers & resourceful offenses which will take advantage of Leach's tired defense.

Washington State is always going to have a natural disadvantage at recruiting and their style of play hurts natural underdogs. They'll make some noise the years he has a 6th round QB & 1st round receiver but it won't be like the Big-12 where the conference pretty much ended after Oklahoma & Texas which lacked the physical match-up counters in Stanford & USC (as well as spread teams built on the run) which could include Washington.

Arizona State won that game?

After USC converted the PAT and made it a two score game I hoped in the shower and got ready for bed. The poster who replied to confused me with "USC with 1 loss" I was thinking he probably meant Boston College but looked at the standings and saw USC w/ 1-loss & Arizona State w/ 1-loss I figured they weren't updated yet and USC probably had a conference loss I didn't know about.

Then I remember quite clearly 1 total loss next to (16) USC on the scoreboard all night then I started rethinking your post which started to make perfect sense which my best guess was some sort of gloating thread like you do with El Supremo. I still thought no way but when I finally learned I couldn't believe I missed out on an instant classic. I knew in theory they had a shot but I held out hope in so many games over what was technically possible despite broadcasters giving thanks to technical advisors that I played the odds. I forgot w/ USC going in untouched on the 2nd play of the series still left plenty of time on the clock when I had 1:45 in my head which was a best case scenario if they held USC to 4-downs w/ no timeouts left.

Man, I should have realized ASU still had a reasonable chance when just a field goal was needed in that 2 score deficit and over 3 minutes was enough to do both despite the 10% odds of recovering the onside kick and an even smaller to win it on a TD pass as time expired.