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Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:55 PM Sep 2015

Steelers coaches encounter headset problems against Patriots

The Patriots had a reputation for cheating before Thursday night's NFL opener against the Steelers -- which ESPN.com wrote about this week -- and that's probably not going to change much after the game. According to NBC's broadcast, the headsets used by the Steelers coaching staff malfunctioned at some point early in the first quarter. Technically, the headsets still worked, the Steelers coaches just couldn't hear each other.


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25297528/steelers-coaches-having-headset-problems-against-patriots
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Steelers coaches encounter headset problems against Patriots (Original Post) Yavin4 Sep 2015 OP
Mmmm... there have been headset problems before KamaAina Sep 2015 #1
The NFL not the teams are in charge of the headsets Fearless Sep 2015 #2
That's not true RockaFowler Sep 2015 #3
Actually it is true. Fearless Sep 2015 #4
Look - one time is OK RockaFowler Sep 2015 #5
The NFL had a problem with the headsets in Foxboro Fearless Sep 2015 #6
Or you could read the NFL's statement from hughee99 Sep 2015 #8
Every article indicates that and proves your point... joeybee12 Sep 2015 #12
Talk to your hand Joey trumad Sep 2015 #16
I mean if we were going to go there conspiracy theory route... Fearless Sep 2015 #33
Insane. trotsky Sep 2015 #7
The equity rule is enforced by the NFL, hughee99 Sep 2015 #9
Fucking cheaters. trotsky Sep 2015 #10
Not sure where this came from, but the headsets had issues in the first quarter, and were fixed hughee99 Sep 2015 #17
The truth hurts, evidently. trotsky Sep 2015 #18
Exactly! I'm still wondering how he made it rain, though. hughee99 Sep 2015 #19
Haha, that's so funny. trotsky Sep 2015 #20
So to rephrase what you said, hughee99 Sep 2015 #21
No, that would be totally distort what I said. trotsky Sep 2015 #23
Yes, and this "conveniently goes away" statement comes from the unbiased Steelers offical web site. hughee99 Sep 2015 #24
Oh I'm sorry, I realize now it's all just a grand conspiracy against the Pats. trotsky Sep 2015 #25
Nice strawman, worthy of GD:P hughee99 Sep 2015 #26
strawman? trumad Sep 2015 #28
Since I didn't mention ANY of the things hughee99 Sep 2015 #29
They are not unique issues Fearless Sep 2015 #35
It comes from the Steelers brass... who could have no knowledge of this Fearless Sep 2015 #36
Some people have moved passed hating to stalking... joeybee12 Sep 2015 #11
How does it feel to be a Yankees fan? Yavin4 Sep 2015 #13
Couldn't care less...now repeat after me... joeybee12 Sep 2015 #14
LOL, Steelers had Patriots Radio Signals... Grassy Knoll Sep 2015 #15
Given you seemingly didn't read the article mythology Sep 2015 #22
Uh--nice try... trumad Sep 2015 #27
It's really funny watching the Cheatriot apologists twist in circles trying to justify madinmaryland Sep 2015 #32
What nefarious cheating trick will the Patriots try next? Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #30
I still don't see what competitive advantage the Patriots would have gained by cheating this way. bluedigger Sep 2015 #31
None as when the problem was found Fearless Sep 2015 #34
Apparently they didn't... trumad Sep 2015 #37
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. Mmmm... there have been headset problems before
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:05 AM
Sep 2015

sometimes even involving the refs' headsets. And sometimes even when the Pats weren't playing.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
3. That's not true
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 06:25 AM
Sep 2015

In fact, the NFL’s own Gameday Policy Manual states:

Home clubs are responsible for the installation and maintenance of the coaching staff communications infrastructure.

It further explains that the visiting coaches on the sideline may use their own headsets, but those used by visiting coaches in the coaches’ booth are supplied by the home team.

http://deadspin.com/what-exactly-happened-with-the-steelers-headsets-1730005682?hipra_discussion_redesign=off&utm_expid=66866090-52.r5txldOmRkqnbJxnyozIeA.1&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fgawker.com%2F

Read the whole article - Cheaters gotta cheat some how!

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
4. Actually it is true.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 06:39 AM
Sep 2015

I tend to trust ESPN over whatever that source is.

But clearly it must be cheating. After all their kicker missed two fields goals in a row, the patriots must be moving the goal posts!!!1!

Also your own link is saying the NFL is in charge of headsets!

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
5. Look - one time is OK
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 06:48 AM
Sep 2015

They have been caught MULTIPLE times cheating

Sorry, it's hard to take anything the Patriots or their silly fans say when it comes to their cheating

It has happened in that stadium MULTIPLE times.

They cheat. Good for them. They get away with it all the time.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
6. The NFL had a problem with the headsets in Foxboro
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 06:53 AM
Sep 2015

And clearly it has never happened elsewhere... Except that picking up rogue signals is common. Which is what your article says. Which is actually what several coaches and analysts have said.

But clearly they must be cheating.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
8. Or you could read the NFL's statement from
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:27 AM
Sep 2015

Yesterday on the issue. Oh wait, that statement is IN the article you linked to. Did YOU read the whole article?

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
12. Every article indicates that and proves your point...
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:08 AM
Sep 2015

However, haters gonna hate no matter what...The Pats complained about it too, although that doesn't fit in with the storyline the haters are promoting.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
33. I mean if we were going to go there conspiracy theory route...
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 08:08 PM
Sep 2015

I'd say Goodell was pissed about the Brady ruling and tried to make the Patriots look like they did something. Still a conspiracy theory, and I'm not inclined to believe it, but at least that theory isn't known to be false.

I will say he loses any respect he had left by not showing up at the game as is tradition.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
7. Insane.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:03 AM
Sep 2015

They're gonna cheat, and they don't even care to make it sneaky anymore.

(the Steelers') coach-to-coach headset system echoing the Patriots’ radio broadcast for most of the first half.


Well the Pats had their headsets off so it was fair, right? Nope.

The NFL described the headset problem as “intermittent,” and elected not to shut down the Patriots’ system in return as would normally be required under the NFL’s “Equity Rule.”


Pats = no-class cheaters.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
9. The equity rule is enforced by the NFL,
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:35 AM
Sep 2015

Who makes the determination when to turn off headsets. Are you suggesting the pats were told to do that and continued with the headsets anyway, or are you suggesting that it's the coach's responsibility to know when the other team is having issues and to just do it on their own?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
10. Fucking cheaters.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:38 AM
Sep 2015
whenever an NFL representative proceeded to the New England sideline to shut down their headsets, the Steelers headsets cleared. Then as the representative walked away from the New England sideline, the Steelers’ headsets again started to receive the Patriots game broadcast.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
17. Not sure where this came from, but the headsets had issues in the first quarter, and were fixed
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:25 AM
Sep 2015

by the end of the first quarter, so if the NFL executive making the call gets up from his seat and walks to the Pats sideline, we're probably talking about 10 minutes, which probably means they fixed the issues in the time it took to inform the Patriots, and someone took some very creative liberties with the wording. As far as your "equity rule" argument goes, I'm sure you quickly recognized that for the turd it was.

Also, the Pats play well in the rain and at night. Did you notice at yesterday's game it was both dark AND rainy? FUCKING CHEATERS!!!

On edit, sorry, I didn't see that this quote came from the guy who writes for the Steelers official team website, so you know it must be accurate and unbiased.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
19. Exactly! I'm still wondering how he made it rain, though.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:46 AM
Sep 2015

The "truth" in this case is that a headset system provided by the nfl had issues for about 10 minutes during yesterday's game, both teams claim to have had these issues and was fixed before the end of the first quarter.

An NFL spokesman had this to say:
"In the first quarter of tonight’s game, the Pittsburgh coaches experienced interference in their headsets caused by a stadium power infrastructure issue, which was exacerbated by the inclement weather. The coaches’ communications equipment, including the headsets, is provided by the NFL for both clubs use on game day. Once the power issue was addressed, the equipment functioned properly with no additional issues."

And this even seems to be at odds with their own official policy, so this must mean the NFL is covering up for the Patriots yet again, like that deflated football story from last years AFC championship game that just sort of disappeared and the NFL never followed up on.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
20. Haha, that's so funny.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:50 AM
Sep 2015

Or not.

Too many question marks for the Pats organization. Too many documented incidents of cheating. Deal with it - ANYTIME something happens, the first instinct will be to blame your team of cheaters. And for good reason.

BTW, the equipment is PROVIDED by the NFL but the home team sets up the visiting coaches' system. Isn't that WEIRD?!?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
21. So to rephrase what you said,
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:00 PM
Sep 2015

There's no evidence of anything here, but you don't like the Pats, so you choose to believe the worst thing you can imagine is true.

Yes, I get it that the Pats will be accused anytime anything feels a little fishy, but it's not the same as suggesting they're guilty of cheating anytime someone doesn't like the way things turned out...

Since headset communications problems are unique to the Patriots home games, though, you might be on to something.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
23. No, that would be totally distort what I said.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 01:13 PM
Sep 2015

Home team sets up the visiting team's radios.

Conveniently goes away when the home team is told they need to take off their headsets.

Cheaters.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
24. Yes, and this "conveniently goes away" statement comes from the unbiased Steelers offical web site.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 01:59 PM
Sep 2015

The problem was found in the first quarter, and was fixed before the end of the first quarter (according to the NFL). How many times did the nfl official go to the pats sidelines to tell them to turn off their headsets only to have it working? It couldn't have been very often given the timeframe. If it happened only once then you have no argument at all, as it was an issue that got fixed BEFORE the official even got there. I note the article made no mention of how many times this occurred. When you find a problem and people start working on it, it isn't "conveniently" fixed... it's just fixed.

By the way, the patriots reported issues with their own headsets, but I'm sure you don't believe that's true.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
25. Oh I'm sorry, I realize now it's all just a grand conspiracy against the Pats.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 02:10 PM
Sep 2015

Everyone just "hates 'em cause they ain't em." Spygate didn't happen. Stealing playsheets didn't happen. Balls deflated under standard pressure didn't happen. Your team is just way more awesomer and better than anyone elses, and of course this is a direct reflection on you being more awesomer too. So happy for you that your team has all those championships*.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
29. Since I didn't mention ANY of the things
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 02:49 PM
Sep 2015

You mentioned, yeah, it's a textbook strawman, but you already knew that.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
14. Couldn't care less...now repeat after me...
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:22 AM
Sep 2015

The NFL is responsible for this equipment, not the teams...say it enough and it might finally stick.

Go Blue Jays!

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
22. Given you seemingly didn't read the article
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:54 PM
Sep 2015

You probably shouldn't be laughing.

The report is that the Steelers were getting the local radio station that was broadcasting the game. That's very different than getting the Patriots' play calls.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
27. Uh--nice try...
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

It was the Patriots Radio Network.

Listened to sports radio all morning and the more I hear about this the more it stinks.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
32. It's really funny watching the Cheatriot apologists twist in circles trying to justify
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 05:27 PM
Sep 2015

and ignore all the cheating that has gone on. Even Will Pitt walked away from it!

Too bad forkboy isn't around anymore.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
30. What nefarious cheating trick will the Patriots try next?
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 03:35 PM
Sep 2015

Stepping out in front of kick returner running down the sideline?

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
31. I still don't see what competitive advantage the Patriots would have gained by cheating this way.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 04:21 PM
Sep 2015

The Steelers needed coach to coach communications in the first half to direct their defense to cover Gronk?

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
34. None as when the problem was found
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 08:11 PM
Sep 2015

The pats headsets were shut off by the NFL... Who controls the devices... Until the problem was solved. Both teams played in radio silence for a few minutes.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
37. Apparently they didn't...
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 09:05 AM
Sep 2015

Every Time the refs would walk up to the Pat's the Steelers headphones would begin to work. When they'd walk away they stopped working.

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