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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 07:20 PM Feb 2012

OMG! Braun Wins Appeal!!!

Huge news: Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel is reporting that Ryan Braun has won the appeal of his 50-game suspension for taking a banned substance. The MLBPA has confirmed. Braun is the first player to successfully appeal a drug suspension.

Immediately after this news broke, Major League Baseball released a statement, printed in full below, saying that while they “vehemently disagree” with the arbitrator’s decision, it will respect the process.

To which I say: how freaking noble of you to respect the process, Major League Baseball. And to all of the writers who, in the wake of the leak of Braun’s positive test, demanded that he either give up his MVP award of have it put up to a re-vote, I suppose you should probably revisit that view in light of the appeal. You know, now that the process has actually run its course and there is a determination you can assess rather than an unauthorized leak to which you can react.

As for Braun and the Brewers: nothing but good news here. From staring a 50-game suspension in the face to reporting to camp tomorrow as if nothing had happened. Which, if the integrity of the testing and the appeal process had been respected like it had been in all other cases, would have been totally unremarkable.

Here’s Major League Baseball’s statement:

“Major League Baseball considers the obligations of the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program essential to the integrity of our game, our Clubs and all of the players who take the field. It has always been Major League Baseball’s position that no matter who tests positive, we will exhaust all avenues in pursuit of the appropriate discipline. We have been true to that position in every instance, because baseball fans deserve nothing less.

“As a part of our drug testing program, the Commissioner’s Office and the Players Association agreed to a neutral third party review for instances that are under dispute. While we have always respected that process, Major League Baseball vehemently disagrees with the decision rendered today by arbitrator Shyam Das.”

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/ryan-braun-wins-the-appeal-of-his-drug-suspension/related/

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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
3. That's what I'd like to know...
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 07:45 PM
Feb 2012

The grounds for him winning...false positive, compromised sample, etc????

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
4. It looks like it was a "technicality."
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 09:03 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/140226473.html

Still, it's one of the strangest cases ever. Braun's stats never jumped. I honestly don't know what to think.

On edit: What I don't understand is MLB's statement. I mean, if you're willing to go with arbitration, then you agree to go with it. There is no point in saying "we disagree with it," after the fact.

Maybe it's some Milwaukee curse coming back to bite the bozo commissioner.
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
7. Now MLB, read Selig, is threatening to sue...
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 10:54 AM
Feb 2012

What a joke...he looked the other way during the whole steroid era and now he gets all self-righteous.

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
8. I Saw That Too
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 12:15 PM
Feb 2012

I thought, "You've got to be kidding." They pushed for testing. They wrote the protocol. They enforce the rules. Then when it goes against them, they want to sue? What did they need negotiations for? They simply could have sued every player testing positive for fraudulent entry into the contract. (Probably not winnable, and expensive.)

But instead, they set up the whole system that they wanted, and when the system goes against them, they want to resort to the courts.

Stupid.
GAC

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
9. It's all hot air most likely...
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 12:48 PM
Feb 2012

Let's all act indignant and outraged just so people think we're doing our jobs.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
10. I also think, a little part of me that is, it's posturing because there's been
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 01:21 PM
Feb 2012

rumblings about Selig's long time relationship with Milwaukee.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
11. I don't know how to take this.
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 01:36 PM
Feb 2012

If it means that he's never used PEDs, then that's great. If it got thrown out only on the technicality of the sample not being delivered on time, that's bad. But it was the biggest reading for testosterone that they ever had. Something's fishy.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
12. If it got thrown out only on the technicality, that's MLB's fault.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 04:09 AM
Feb 2012

Last edited Sun Feb 26, 2012, 02:10 AM - Edit history (1)

The commissioner should have ordered another test for Braun (and replaced the collection agency) the second he heard about the sample's flawed chain of custody. It is also the responsibility of the commissioner's office to have the tests done early enough so they can delivered to Fedex by closing time.

Braun could be lying like a rug for all I know. But just like with Lance Armstrong, I am left with no choice but to give him the benefit of the (reasonable) doubt.


rocktivity

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
13. There was no "flawed" chain of custody.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 08:54 AM
Feb 2012

By most accounts protocol was followed. Braun is now attacking the chain of custody. But if the tester is to be believed everything he did was within the protocol. There are two samples taken and both tested positive. The second test is a more rigorous test if the first comes back positive. That, as what I have read, this is what happened. Braun is nothing but lucky in this. He isn't fighting the results but the manner in which the sample was handled. So, he is implying that something could have "happened" to the sample. This smacks of OJ when his defense also questioned the chain of custody and how a sample was precessed later than usual even though protocol was follows. Manny Ramirez probably should have fought his results. He also never tested positive for PED's but had high testosterone levels. I would like to see the tester come out and smack down Braun by saying he did nothing wrong and Braun's implications are false.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
14. By at least ONE account, the protocol WASN'T followed -- and by NO fault of Braun's
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 03:08 PM
Feb 2012

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But it's not MLB's fault, either.

It's the fault of whoever either didn't know that Fedex was open on Saturdays, or whoever decided that it wasn't important to inform either the commissioner or the lab that Braun's sample would be bunking in with him over the weekend. I also have to wonder why the lab didn't notice that the sample arrived a day late though it was taken a day earlier.

That's why Braun was able to crack open the door of reasonable doubt, and then blow it off its hinges.


rocktivity

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
15. And isn't that the issue, that the late arrival was OK with the lab?
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:24 PM
Feb 2012

It very well could be that the late arrival didn't matter to the lab. It just seems that Braun and Co. seem to think everybody that them did him wrong. Again, he is one lucky dude that got a 2-1 decision. For Braun to get off on a technicality means that all the testing is suspect. And I go back to Manny. How is it that the public and media hung him out to dry? Both his issues with testosterone, not PEDS. And how can Clemens even go to trial with the stuff that has no chain of evidence that is expected to be introduced in his trial. Braun gets off, they all do.

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