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Anyone know about FanDuel? (Original Post) trof Oct 2015 OP
Daily fantasy outlawed in Nevada for being unlicensed gambling (FanDuel is a daily fantasy operator) Brother Buzz Oct 2015 #1
I have an account there getting old in mke Oct 2015 #2
Thanks. I'm just a casual fan. trof Oct 2015 #3

Brother Buzz

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1. Daily fantasy outlawed in Nevada for being unlicensed gambling (FanDuel is a daily fantasy operator)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:14 AM
Oct 2015
Daily fantasy outlawed in Nevada for being unlicensed gambling

Nevada, the state most known for gambling, ruled Thursday that daily fantasy sports is a form of gambling and will require a license to operate in the state.

A.G. Burnett, chairman of the Nevada Gaming Control Board, said all unlicensed daily fantasy activities must cease and desist as of Thursday. Operators could be invited to apply for a gaming license. Those who do not comply could face felony fines and 10 years in prison.

"We are saying that daily fantasy sports are a gambling game under the statutory definition," Burnett told ESPN on Thursday night. "We're also saying that these are sports pools, which is when someone is in the business of accepting wagers on sporting events through any system or method of wagering. We have found that it is a wager, and obviously, it's on a sporting event, and DFS companies are in the business of accepting those wagers."

FanDuel, one of the two most prominent daily fantasy operators, said in a statement released Thursday night that it is "terribly disappointed that the Nevada Gaming Control Board has decided that only incumbent Nevada casinos may offer fantasy sports."

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getting old in mke

(813 posts)
2. I have an account there
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:46 PM
Oct 2015

Came with a "pay $25 for a subscription" for a tool for season-long fantasy that I wanted or "deposit $25 at FanDuel and we'll give you access to our tool for free." I figured, why not try it--zero risk for me.

They do other sports as well, but I'm only interested in the NFL games.

The basics are simple: You are given a $60,000 budget. Players are priced according to perceived value and previous performance. The prices are set each week, but don't vary during the week.

Your task is to select a team of nine players--1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 DST with pretty typical fantasy (PPR) scoring. At the end of the football games involved--can be Sunday only, all weekend, etc--to points are totaled and winners determined.

I've submitted line-ups two weekends to five games total and ended up in the money each time, so I have huge, huge winnings of an extra $40...I'll probably retire next week... But then I'm only choosing games like "double your money if you finish in the top 45%"--obvious house advantage, but a large space to end up in the money. I haven't played in anything with big winnings to only a few and nothing for everyone else. I'm confident enough in what I know that I can make reasonable choices to end up in the top half more often than not, but not arrogant enough to imaging I can out-think and out-luck 250,000 other people in a high risk/reward game.

Despite the loop-hole in federal law, it is, of course, gambling. Like some other games of chance--poker, for example--knowledge can modify your expected outcome if you are playing with folks not as focused on the domain of knowledge. So it has a larger component of skill than something like roulette.

But like poker or anything else, there is a very large component of luck on who does well that week, injuries, etc.

Playing in the games with a large number of low winnings winners, you can use the knowledge to put together groups that aren't likely to all go bad at once and have a number go well enough to make the top half. It's almost a risk minimization problem instead of a point maximization problem. That's where I feel the knowledge helps the odds.

The higher winning games are the opposite. To win them you have to not only select a lot of players who will "go off" in a particular week, but hopefully select players that others won't in order to differentiate yourself from their results. That is, to my mind, almost entirely luck.

If you're of a mathematical mind, think decision theory for the low-winnings game, game theory for the high-winnings game for the constraint management, but with high variability from luck.

Anyway, that's what it looks like to me these days.

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