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Related: About this forumPresident Obama, administration officials pay tribute to religious freedom
CWN - January 20, 2014
Amid numerous lawsuits asserting that the Obama administrations HHS mandate is an unconstitutional attack on religious freedom, President Barack Obama paid tribute to religious liberty in a presidential proclamation for Religious Freedom Day.
The day, observed on January 16, commemorates the anniversary of Thomas Jeffersons landmark Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom.
America embraces people of all faiths and of no faith, said President Obama. We are Christians and Jews, Muslims and Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs, atheists and agnostics. Our religious diversity enriches our cultural fabric and reminds us that what binds us as one is not the tenets of our faiths, the colors of our skin, or the origins of our names. What makes us American is our adherence to shared ideals -- freedom, equality, justice, and our right as a people to set our own course.
America proudly stands with people of every nation who seek to think, believe, and practice their faiths as they choose, he continued. In the years to come, my Administration will remain committed to promoting religious freedom, both at home and across the globe. We urge every country to recognize religious freedom as both a universal right and a key to a stable, prosperous, and peaceful future.
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=20234
Full text of the Proclamation:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/01/15/proclamation-religious-freedom-day-2014
longship
(40,416 posts)The way this is framed -- make sure you read the comments, too -- I am surprised that this is posted here except in the know thy enemy sense.
I don't know anything about catholicculture.org, but if this article is typical, I just have to say that I don't like them very much.
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(82,333 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)While the religious right is accusing Obama of waging war against the religious, he releases this really inclusive and positive statement about religious freedom.
The site and group seems pretty good to me.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships
Now if he can remove the Faith-based part.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I always thought it violated the First Amendment and the establishment clause.
I thought it was horrible under Bush.
If religious org.s want to do work with the Gov, they should set up a wall with their religious parts and be treated as any charitable org.
Faith should have nothing to do with it.
The chances to funneling money to churches is too great, and that is exactly what happened under Bush and will happen again with another GOP Admin
cbayer
(146,218 posts)the plate to adequately care for the most marginalized people in this country, then we may no longer need faith-based groups to do it.
Coordinating and supporting groups that provide a huge amount to the least among us is a good thing, imo.
And I don't think it violates the first amendment. It's not endorsement of any religion. And now that it includes "neighborhood", it really more inclusive than it was.
Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater here. Just because something is religious doesn't mean governments can't work with them.
It's just a descriptive title, but I agree that religious functions should be separate from charitable ones.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)so that is why I think there needs to be a sharp separation between the services and the Church that runs them.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)They apply.
Should they be excluded because they are faith based?
I think that's where the 1st amendment problem would lie.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)But I do think it originated in the Bush Administration as a way to funnel money to like minded Churches.
It's inception was corrupt and as I said, another GOP Admin will use it again for these purposes.
https://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/an-insider-s-confession-david-kuo-blew-the-whistle-on-faith-based-fraud
And these are programs that the Government should actually do.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)rules are in place, I think it can be done well.
The government should actually being doing many of these things.
But they aren't.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)privatizing the safety net is worse.
It stinks too much of a GOP idea for me.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I think most of these organizations voluntarily try to sew up some of the gaping holes in the net.
There is no profit involved and much of the time the services are provided by volunteers, the good donated.
The fact that there are such gaping holes in the safety net is the underlying problem.
But I cringe when I see people suggest that it should be made more difficult or even impossible for religious organizations to do the charitable work that they currently do.