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rug

(82,333 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:46 PM Feb 2014

Can an Atheist Be in Awe of the Universe?

What does the magnificence of the universe have to do with God?

Mar 1, 2014 | By Michael Shermer

After 64-year-old Diana Nyad completed her 110-mile swim from Cuba to Florida in September 2013, she was interviewed by Oprah Winfrey on her Super Soul Sunday show in what was to be a motivational reflection on the triumph of will over age. When Nyad announced, “I'm an atheist,” Oprah responded quizzically: “But you're in the awe.” Puzzled, Nyad responded: “I don't understand why anybody would find a contradiction in that. I can stand at the beach's edge with the most devout Christian, Jew, Buddhist—go on down the line—and weep with the beauty of this universe and be moved by all of humanity. All the billions of people who have lived before us, who have loved and hurt and suffered. So to me, my definition of God is humanity and is the love of humanity.” What Oprah said next inflamed atheists: “Well, I don't call you an atheist then. I think if you believe in the awe and the wonder and the mystery, then that is what God is.”

This is the soft bigotry of those who cannot conceive of how someone can be in awe without believing in supernatural sources of wonder. Why would anyone think that?

A partial answer may be found in a 2013 study by psychologists Piercarlo Valdesolo of Claremont McKenna College and Jesse Graham of the University of Southern California, published in the journal Psychological Science. Research had shown that “awe” is associated with “perceived vastness” (like the night sky or an open ocean) and that “awe-prone” individuals tend to be more comfortable with uncertainty and are less likely to need cognitive closure in some kind of explanation. They “are more comfortable revising existing mental schemas to assimilate novel information,” the authors said in their paper. For those who are not awe-prone, Valdesolo wrote in an e-mail, “we hypothesized that the uncertainty experienced by the immediate feeling of the emotion would be aversive (since they are probably not the kinds of people who feel it all the time). This was rooted in theoretical work which argued that awe is elicited when we have trouble making sense of the event we are witnessing, and this failure to assimilate information into existing mental structures should lead to negative states like confusion and disorientation.” To reduce the anxiety of awe-inspiring experiences, people who are not prone to awe engage in a process I call “agenticity,” or the tendency to believe that the world is controlled by invisible intentional agents.

To test this hypothesis, Valdesolo and Graham divided subjects into three groups. One group saw a video clip of an awe-inspiring scene from the BBC's Planet Earth, another watched an emotionally neutral news interview by the late 60 Minutes correspondent Mike Wallace, and the last group viewed a comedy clip from the BBC's Walk on the Wild Side. Subjects then took a survey that measured their belief in God, belief “that the universe is controlled by God or supernatural forces, such as karma,” and their feeling of “awe” while watching the video clip. Subjects who saw the Planet Earth video experienced the most awe and, while in this state, greater belief in both God and supernatural control. The researchers concluded: “The present results suggest that in the moment of awe, some of the fear and trembling can be mitigated by perceiving an author's hand in the experience.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-atheist-be-in-awe-of-universe/

Awe, Uncertainty, and Agency Detection

Piercarlo Valdesolo1
Jesse Graham2
1Claremont McKenna College
2University of Southern California

Piercarlo Valdesolo, Department of Psychology, Claremont McKenna College, 850 Columbia Ave., Claremont, CA 91711 E-mail: pvaldesolo@cmc.edu

Author Contributions P. Valdesolo and J. Graham designed the studies and composed and edited the manuscript. P. Valdesolo conducted the studies and data analysis.

Abstract

Across five studies, we found that awe increases both supernatural belief (Studies 1, 2, and 5) and intentional-pattern perception (Studies 3 and 4)—two phenomena that have been linked to agency detection, or the tendency to interpret events as the consequence of intentional and purpose-driven agents. Effects were both directly and conceptually replicated, and mediational analyses revealed that these effects were driven by the influence of awe on tolerance for uncertainty. Experiences of awe decreased tolerance for uncertainty, which, in turn, increased the tendency to believe in nonhuman agents and to perceive human agency in random events.

http://pss.sagepub.com/content/25/1/170

There is a pdf of the study at the link but it requires a subscription.
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enough

(13,259 posts)
2. I would think an atheist would be more likely than anyone else to be in awe
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 08:02 PM
Feb 2014

of the universe. If you have no convenient explanation, the awe is awesome!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. People who are not strong in their faith tend
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 08:03 PM
Feb 2014

to use other people to support their beliefs. People not strong in their beliefs constantly evaluate other people based on the code they set for themselves.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
4. How anyone can be in awe of the god of the Bible is beyond me.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 08:05 PM
Feb 2014

Yahweh was a genocidal maniac.

Jesus was a megalomaniacal, misogynistic idiot.

What's there to be in awe of?

elleng

(130,934 posts)
6. Yes, Nature is awesome,
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:19 PM
Feb 2014

has nothing to do with a 'higher power,' imo; Nature is its own higher power.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
7. Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:15 PM
Feb 2014

without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? (Douglas Adams)

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. Aren't threads where people just respond to the headline fun!!!!
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:26 AM
Feb 2014

It's leads to such deep and erudite discussion of the topic.

Anywho, this is a really interesting article and study. Without access to the study, it's hard to really assess it, but their hypothesis is interesting.

Personally, I think awe is an emotional state that is probably not much effected by belief. I would hypothesize that both believers and non-believers who lie in a field watching a magnificent meteor shower will experience pretty much the same thing.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
12. Something odd in the article cited, or its summary:
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:29 PM
Feb 2014

It seems to simply identify "awe" and religiosity. Begging the question of your post.

Of course atheists can feel awe; anyone can look at the stars or the Grand Canyon - and feel it. The awesomeness of Nature.

If anything atheists may feel awe more. Since they don't quite have a sense of a divine author, ordering it and guaranteeing it all to human specs. Which tames it down.

These days I am learning to mistrust summaries of academic articles, more and more.

It is too bad that academics and their publishers, put their findings behind pay walls.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
17. I don't think it's a contest.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:33 PM
Feb 2014

Some people feel awe, some really don't. I doubt degree of religiosity really has much to do with it.

I also mistrust these kinds of summaries, particularly when they are from the softer sciences. The pay walls are just one of the barriers to people improving their critical reasoning skills and why so many just swallow these reports whole.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
10. HOLY SHIT IT'S FROM THE FUTURE
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:52 AM
Feb 2014

"Can an Atheist Be in Awe of the Universe?

What does the magnificence of the universe have to do with God?
Mar 1, 2014 |By Michael Shermer "

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