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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 10:43 AM Mar 2014

Religious Conservatives Are the New Minority, But They’re Not Victims - Gene Robinson

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/30/religious-conservatives-are-the-new-minority-but-they-re-not-victims.html


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Sure, it feels bad when the world you took for granted seems to have turned against you overnight. But Christians complaining about “discrimination” should realize what real victimization looks like.
From what I read and hear, conservative evangelical Christians are feeling victimized by developments in American culture and in the ways they are being treated under new anti-discrimination laws. In ever greater numbers, they are appealing to the courts to grant them “relief” from regulations that they feel violates their freedom of religion. “Religious liberty” has become the rallying cry for a legal “remedy” to the violation of what they see as their freedom to practice their religion.

It is understandable that religious conservatives would feel uncomfortable and unsettled by recent developments in the church and in the culture. But are they victims? Is there, as many would claim, a “war on religion?”

This is especially obvious in the changing understanding about homosexuality. In ever-greater numbers, and across every religious and cultural demographic, acceptance of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people is increasing. In American religious communities, across every denominational demographic, support for equal rights for LGBT people, and particularly support for marriage equality for gay couples, is on the rise. In most denominations, that rise has resulted in majority support even when the denominational hierarchy disagrees.

Why have we seen such a sea change? Twenty years ago, most Americans would have told you they didn’t know anyone who was gay. They may have been suspicious about certain family members or co-workers, but it was not something openly talked about or acknowledged. Now, is there anyone left in America who does not know some family member, former classmate, neighbor, or co-worker to be gay?

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Religious Conservatives Are the New Minority, But They’re Not Victims - Gene Robinson (Original Post) cbayer Mar 2014 OP
50 years ago I did HockeyMom Mar 2014 #1
So you learned tolerance and respect at an early age. Kath1 Mar 2014 #3
Love that graphic. okasha Mar 2014 #5
Thanks, okasha! Kath1 Mar 2014 #6
There has been such a big change in such a short period of time. cbayer Mar 2014 #4
Robinson, as usual, fails to point out skepticscott Mar 2014 #2
Conservative Christians need to get over this siege mentality. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #7
Conservative Christians okasha Mar 2014 #8
Yes that is a great idea! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #9
Did God change his mind? edhopper Mar 2014 #10
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
1. 50 years ago I did
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 10:58 AM
Mar 2014

Very fortunate growing up in Greenwich Village. Many gay neighbors and I used to cat sit for one gay couple when I was 12. My parents back then were very matter of fact about gays, but then my Aunt was a lesbian and raised my cousin with her partner.

I think it is a matter of you FEAR what you do not know. Also, the majority of gay people are not in the closet anymore and people see them all round them in their everyday lives. This is especially true with the younger generation.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
3. So you learned tolerance and respect at an early age.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:12 AM
Mar 2014

I have a hard time feeling sorry for the religious right who feel so put upon. People no longer feel stigmatized by their bigotry and are free to be themselves, and that is a beautiful thing. They need to get over it.



cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. There has been such a big change in such a short period of time.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:14 AM
Mar 2014

Growing up, it just wasn't talked about. We had a couple living across the street who, in retrospect, I am sure were a life couple.

But my kids were exposed to GLBT people since birth and grew up thinking it was completely normal.

You are right about fear. It is those with no exposure (or no known exposure) that hold on to their prejudices.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
2. Robinson, as usual, fails to point out
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:10 AM
Mar 2014

that it has been religion, and no other social force, that has preached and fought against equal rights and treatment for homosexuals over the last 20 years (and further), both within their own religious communities and beyond. It is not religious faith or the tenets of their beliefs that have moved even liberal religious communities to greater acceptance of gays and lesbians, but continuing condemnation from outside, that has shamed and pressured them into doing what they should have been all along.

Religion has been the problem all along, never the solution.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
8. Conservative Christians
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 02:58 PM
Mar 2014

need to read that story about Jesus healing the Centurion's "beloved youth. " And re-read it till it gets through.

edhopper

(33,580 posts)
10. Did God change his mind?
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 09:29 PM
Mar 2014

How could the creator of all existence tell them to be against something 20 years ago, but now say it is okay?
Or were they wrong about what God or said? And if they were wrong, how do they know anything else is right?

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