Meanwhile R&K

To not go chipping away at or attempting to reinterpret the parts of the Constitution we don't agree with. It sets the precedence for others to chip away at the parts we do agree with. Cherish the Constitution in it's entirety, protect it and live by it.

the past 30 years and it's time to shore up those levies.

I did not object or walk off as I could have. It really caught me by surprise. The same woman complained to a supervisor once about I and another guy uttering fairly rare spontanious expletives. She claimed that makes her uncomfortable. In those case, sometimes it just happens. You smash a finger or drop something and out it comes!

All of the rest of the crew that day of the prayer are religious. One Morman and the rest some other Christian of whatever type. This woman in charge had just found out he nephews cancer is terminal and that had something to do with her wantng to pray. If it happens again, I'll have a little private chat with her and put a stop to it. I'll just tell her it's a waste of my time and I have better things to do. It's really such a slam dunk if I go to our bosses with it that she'll have to knock it off.

It will be interesting what happens and how the rest of the crew will react. It will probably be the usual outrage that their religious freedom is being infringed.

Seems like a situation where some education can go a long way.

If she objects to expletives that she feels are offensive to the religious, then she should be able to understand why you would object to a prayer.

And when it comes down to it, your complaint has more legal standing than hers.

I hope you are able to resolve it with her in a way that benefits everyone involved, though I realize that may not happen.

feel they need to. I just feel I'm not being paid to take part in and superstitious chants or rituals. I won't put it that way, that would ensure some poutrage on their part. There is one woman on the crew I have a little score to settle with though. She lied about me awhile back. I'd love to trap her into trying to retaliate against me over the prayer thing. That would go to HR immediately!

instead of an opportunity to agree to some mutually respectful lines.

The issues he raises - the congressional chaplain, swearing in on bibles, "In God We Trust" on money, discrimination against atheists - all have been brought up by individuals here in this very group, only to be shot down and told to hush, there are more important battles to fight. Is it any wonder some atheists here might be angry about the double standard exhibited by some?

People need to have the freedom to reject religion as well as to practice their religion. Members of minority religions and non-believers are really in the same boat in that neither want to be forced to practice the religion of the majority.

you will find quite a few of that majority standing with you to resist it.

I'd be a lot less certain of that. Firstly because humans are instinctively conformist (proved many times but Ashe was the original); secondly, because humans will generally obey a perceived authority figure (Milgram) and thirdly, because, in my experience, most people are just fine with oppression as long as the boot is at teh neck of someone else.