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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:07 AM Mar 2012

Baby Dies From Herpes After Controversial Circumcision Ritual

A baby died at a New York hospital in September after contracting herpes from a controversial circumcision ritual. The infant died at Maimonides Hospital in Brooklyn, where the cause of death was listed as "disseminated herpes simplex virus Type 1, complicating ritual circumcision with oral suction," according to the New York Daily News.

Now, the Brooklyn District Attorney's office is looking further into the case, the Jewish Week reports.

The boy is the second New York area infant in recent years to die from complications related to the Orthodox Jewish ritual of metzitzah b'peh, during which "the mohel places his mouth on the freshly circumcised penis to draw blood away from the cut," according to the New York City Department of Heath.

Another infant died in 2005 after contracting herpes from a rabbi who performed the procedure.

At least three infants are thought to have contracted the disease from the same mohel in 2004
, but when city officials denounced the practice, Haredi leaders became defensive and alleged government shouldn't impede on a religious ritual, according to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency. The mohel in question disputed claims that he was the cause of the infection.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/06/baby-dies-circumcision-ritual-herpes_n_1322420.html
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Baby Dies From Herpes After Controversial Circumcision Ritual (Original Post) cleanhippie Mar 2012 OP
teh stupid, it burns. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #1
Adds a whole new dimension to "silent but deadly" n/t Silent3 Mar 2012 #4
Freedom of religion atreides1 Mar 2012 #2
To bad the baby wasn't able to choose his religion. madmom Mar 2012 #3
The founders guaranteed us freedom FROM religion. There can be no religious test or state sanctioned Vincardog Mar 2012 #5
Can anyone defend this? Fix The Stupid Mar 2012 #6
there is no defense for this waddirum Mar 2012 #10
Why isn't this fucker and the parents who authorized it in jail? Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #7
the ritual of WHAT???? deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #8
It's just more justification for pedophilia dickthegrouch Mar 2012 #9
If you had included a picture... Ron Obvious Mar 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #12
That picture enraged me something horrible waddirum Mar 2012 #13
in case I wasn't clear waddirum Mar 2012 #14

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
1. teh stupid, it burns.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:21 AM
Mar 2012

and it kills.

A few years ago, women in a high quality birthing center kept getting that horrible flesh eating disease. No one knew why. The wing was brand new, there was no reason for the widespread, almost deadly infections. Turned out the anesthetist was passing gas, while he passed gas. the E Coli in his farts infected the open wounds, causing horrible results.
The Chicago hospital in question finally found the cause, and kept the story as quiet as they could.

atreides1

(16,094 posts)
2. Freedom of religion
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:25 AM
Mar 2012

Was it the intent of the Founders to allow "Freedom of Religion" to be used as a defense against something like this?

I don't think so!

But I don't believe the the Founders intended "Freedom of Speech" to be used as a cover for lying either...

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
5. The founders guaranteed us freedom FROM religion. There can be no religious test or state sanctioned
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 12:24 PM
Mar 2012

religion. That is what the GOP and fudGOPmentalists want to eliminate.
They want to impose THEIR beliefs on us.
They also want the freedom to ignore their "beliefs" in their own lives.
If you don't believe me I have a public bathroom stall in Minneapolis to show you.

Fix The Stupid

(949 posts)
6. Can anyone defend this?
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 02:45 PM
Mar 2012


Is there any defense for this?

I didn't think so.

Disgusting...makes me furious just thinking about it.

Poor baby did not have a choice...sick.
 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
7. Why isn't this fucker and the parents who authorized it in jail?
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:57 PM
Mar 2012

Are criminal charges even going to be put forward?

Everyone's religious freedom ends when it adversely affects others, and that should especially hold true when the victims are children.

deacon_sephiroth

(731 posts)
8. the ritual of WHAT????
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:44 PM
Mar 2012

Wow, I learned something new today...

And like most days, it's something about a religion that does NOT endear it to me.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
11. If you had included a picture...
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 01:03 PM
Mar 2012

And yet if you had included a picture of this disgusting ritual you;'d have been called an antisemite and had your thread locked. Yeah, I saw the one you posted earlier.

Religion gets far too much special protection in our society, but all of us here already know that.

Response to Ron Obvious (Reply #11)

waddirum

(979 posts)
13. That picture enraged me something horrible
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 07:41 PM
Mar 2012

I'm Jewish, and can't even begin to process how fucked up that is.

waddirum

(979 posts)
14. in case I wasn't clear
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 07:43 PM
Mar 2012

I'm enraged at the practitioners of this nonsense. Not at the DUer who posted the diary.

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