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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:37 AM Aug 2014

The Midichlorians Made Me Do It: Can Microbes Explain Religion?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/10/do-midichlorians-make-you-religious.html

A wild new paper draws on ‘Star Wars’ to speculate about whether microbes might cause religious behavior—the latest in a long history of scientific attempts to pathologize belief.

For close to two thousand years, Christians have been taking Holy Communion. They’ve gone to war over the details of its theological nature. Mormons sip from cups of water, Catholics from chalices of wine. A few denominations dispense with it altogether. It’s no exaggeration to say that individuals have taken part in the ritual billions of times.

What motivates those individuals to take communion? Do they want to feel closer to God, or just please their mothers? Are they anxious about entering heaven, or anxious, as teenagers, just to try a little wine? Do they enjoy the aesthetics of the experience? Do they feel pressured to participate by people more powerful than they are? Are they trying to affirm their membership in a club? To signal some kind of purity? To stand next to a distant crush while waiting in line? To fulfill a habit, with no real sense of intention at all?

Or—so much simpler!—is it just the microbes in their stomachs pushing them to go perform a ritual?

That, more or less, is the suggestion of a paper published last month in the online journal Biology Direct. Written by Alexander Panchin and two colleagues associated with Moscow’s Institute for Information Transmission Problems, “Midichlorians – the biomeme hypothesis” suggests that the impulse behind some religious rituals could be driven by mind-altering parasites. Looking for chances to spread, these hypothetical microbes push their human hosts to do seemingly irrational things—like, say, share a cup of wine en masse, or dunk themselves in the Ganges, or gather themselves from all corners of the earth in order to kiss the same wall, stone, or icon.

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Jim__

(14,088 posts)
1. "a cure for that bafflement ... called interacting with human beings who are different from you"
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 08:45 AM
Aug 2014
One feels, reading the Panchin paper and its viral ilk, not that they’ve plumbed the psychology of the religious impulse, but that, unwittingly, they’ve revealed their own total bafflement at why someone might actually want to do something spiritual.

Fortunately, there’s a cure for that bafflement. It’s called interacting with human beings who are different from you. Unfortunately, this kind of activity is also one of the leading vectors for disease transmission. But, hey, just ask anyone who’s ever shared a communion cup with a few dozen other people: sometimes the world’s a little bit messy.


I think he nails it with that.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. I thought the article was too hilarious to pass up.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 08:48 AM
Aug 2014

I agree that the final paragraph totally nails it.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
3. Communion to be sure, does link to a major primal animal instinct: eat food.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 08:59 AM
Aug 2014

The equation shifts around like this: food is good; food is God=God is food; Jesus is the "bread" for you.

This aspect of religion, of communion, probably IS as basic as the microbes.

To be sure, some later refinements were necessary for full scale religion. But VERY primal things are there too.

The next allegedly higher element, communalism, could relate in turn to food-sharing in higher-animal packs.

edhopper

(33,638 posts)
5. What makes humans
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 10:31 AM
Aug 2014

participate in rituals that are thousands of years old, when they have only recently found out they might be unsanitary?
And this is what they come up with?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. The link in the article to the Nature discussion of this is quite interesting.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

They make the case that peer review can be completely worthless and use this article as a prime example.

It's not just bad science, it's really, really bad science.

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