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laconicsax

(14,860 posts) Sat Mar 17, 2012, 01:18 AM Mar 2012

What the Bible Says Depends on Where You're From

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-dudley/the-bible-says-many-different-things_b_1347594.html

As Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum fight it out for the G.O.P. nomination, preachers on both sides of the aisle are opining on "what the Bible says" on a range of issues, from Occupy Wall Street to contraception coverage, from Mormonism to welfare programs.

Don't take them too seriously.

Truth is, the Bible can "say" anything depending on which verses are emphasized and how they are spun.
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When a community claims they can't help but oppose homosexuality because the Bible requires them to do so, or that Jesus would support a liberal economic system, or that if you really read the Bible carefully you should end up supporting Party X, they're showing naivete. What the Bible "requires" depends on the beliefs one brings to it.

So as the election season heats up, let's stop pretending our ideology comes straight from what the Bible says. The reality is, "what the Bible says" comes straight from our ideology.

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What the Bible Says Depends on Where You're From (Original Post) laconicsax Mar 2012 OP

also depends on which bible, there are sooooo many to choose from nt msongs Mar 2012 #1

I come from Burbank Loudmxr Mar 2012 #2

Great book to read on the subject safeinOhio Mar 2012 #3

To a politician, the Bible is just another soundbite to use. rug Mar 2012 #4

You just did a fantastic job proving the article's point. trotsky Mar 2012 #5

And you did an adequate job of missing the point. rug Mar 2012 #7

Except when the politician agrees with you. trotsky Mar 2012 #18

According to the politician. rug Mar 2012 #19

Why, are you? n/t trotsky Mar 2012 #20

A suitably evasive answer. rug Mar 2012 #22

I've learned a lot from you! n/t trotsky Mar 2012 #24

You do have a lot to learn. rug Mar 2012 #25

To pretty much anyone trying to support their theological position Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #6

Except this is about political positions, which has little to do with theology. rug Mar 2012 #8

Well of course your bible translation is superior Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #9

Well of course that's a non sequitur. rug Mar 2012 #10

Really? How? Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #11

It could be the Douay-Rheims or the Bhagavad Gita. rug Mar 2012 #12

So are you equally mad at Obama Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #13

I don't think the concept of non sequitur is elastic enough to cover that post. rug Mar 2012 #14

Let me be more direct. Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #16

Any politician who uses religion to advance a political agenda is engaging in dishonest pandering. rug Mar 2012 #17

Actually, it *was* a non-sequitur mr blur Mar 2012 #21

+100 deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #15

The message of the Holy Bible is imaginary. ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #23

msongs

(67,406 posts)

1. also depends on which bible, there are sooooo many to choose from nt

Reply to laconicsax (Original post)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 03:32 AM

Mar 2012

Loudmxr

(1,405 posts)

2. I come from Burbank

Reply to laconicsax (Original post)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 04:04 AM

Mar 2012

Micky and Minnie Mouse Donald Duck and his friend Daffy...have more to say about where I come from than an ancient book.

Did I mention that Pooh and Eeyore are friends of mine too?

safeinOhio

(32,680 posts)

3. Great book to read on the subject

Reply to laconicsax (Original post)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 04:06 AM

Mar 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misquoting_Jesus

rug

(82,333 posts)

4. To a politician, the Bible is just another soundbite to use.

Reply to laconicsax (Original post)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 09:11 AM

Mar 2012

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

5. You just did a fantastic job proving the article's point.

Reply to rug (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:12 AM

Mar 2012

Nice work!

rug

(82,333 posts)

7. And you did an adequate job of missing the point.

Reply to trotsky (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:10 PM

Mar 2012

It is religion that is the tool of politics. Sorry to disillusion you.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

18. Except when the politician agrees with you.

Reply to rug (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:10 PM

Mar 2012

Then it's what Jesus wanted.

Every single time.

rug

(82,333 posts)

19. According to the politician.

Reply to trotsky (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:14 PM

Mar 2012

Or, are you trying to sidle a personal attack?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

20. Why, are you? n/t

Reply to rug (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:27 PM

Mar 2012

rug

(82,333 posts)

22. A suitably evasive answer.

Reply to trotsky (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:37 PM

Mar 2012

Every single time.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

24. I've learned a lot from you! n/t

Reply to rug (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:09 AM

Mar 2012

rug

(82,333 posts)

25. You do have a lot to learn.

Reply to trotsky (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:46 AM

Mar 2012

Keep at it!

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)

6. To pretty much anyone trying to support their theological position

Reply to rug (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:22 AM

Mar 2012

the Bible is just another soundbite to use.

rug

(82,333 posts)

8. Except this is about political positions, which has little to do with theology.

Reply to Goblinmonger (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:16 PM

Mar 2012

They will use the KJV as quickly as grits to get support.

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)

9. Well of course your bible translation is superior

Reply to rug (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:21 PM

Mar 2012

because it's yours.

rug

(82,333 posts)

10. Well of course that's a non sequitur.

Reply to Goblinmonger (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:25 PM

Mar 2012

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)

11. Really? How?

Reply to rug (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:27 PM

Mar 2012

You condemned the KJV of the bible they are going to use. Which means you feel it is an inferior translation. Which they would say about yours.

rug

(82,333 posts)

12. It could be the Douay-Rheims or the Bhagavad Gita.

Reply to Goblinmonger (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:37 PM

Mar 2012

They really don't give a shit. Religion and scriptures are just the grist for the political mill.

You shouldn't be so jumpy.

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)

13. So are you equally mad at Obama

Reply to rug (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:44 PM

Mar 2012

Fighting for the cross to be put back up on federal property?

rug

(82,333 posts)

14. I don't think the concept of non sequitur is elastic enough to cover that post.

Reply to Goblinmonger (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:52 PM

Mar 2012

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)

16. Let me be more direct.

Reply to rug (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:58 PM

Mar 2012

Do you equally hate when liberal politicians use religion to foster their political goals (like Obama clearly is with the cross) or do you save your disdain for only the conservatives?

rug

(82,333 posts)

17. Any politician who uses religion to advance a political agenda is engaging in dishonest pandering.

Reply to Goblinmonger (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:23 PM

Mar 2012

Would you like a drop of blood on that post as well?

mr blur

(7,753 posts)

21. Actually, it *was* a non-sequitur

Reply to Goblinmonger (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:48 PM

Mar 2012

Just saying...

deacon_sephiroth

(731 posts)

15. +100

Reply to rug (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:53 PM

Mar 2012

I agree 100%, that's the way it is brother, that's the way it's always been.

One monkey looks at the other monkies and decides that he should be able to tell them how to live and get some of their money, but lacking useful skills and leadership, that monkey is going to have to rely on imagination, and thusly... the appeal to fake authority is born.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)

23. The message of the Holy Bible is imaginary.

Reply to laconicsax (Original post)

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:33 AM

Mar 2012

Love it.

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