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Related: About this forumWhy American Atheists is advertising to Jews and Muslims
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/mar/18/american-atheists-advertising-jews-muslims?newsfeed=trueOur billboards are designed not to upset believers, but to inform atheists trapped by cultural affiliation in religious communities
Dave Silverman
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 18 March 2012 11.00 EDT
American Atheists is an educational organization; we always intended to inform, to make people think. We never avoid being provocative, though that's not the goal. We have not only a right, but a duty to speak the truth and to be heard. So our recent billboard campaign in Brooklyn and New Jersey, handy to neighborhoods where many Jews or Muslims live, was carefully designed to do exactly what they have done elsewhere and are successfully doing now: getting the attention of atheists and inviting them to the Reason Rally in Washington, DC, on Saturday 24 March, and to the American Atheists national convention immediately afterwards (25-26 March) in nearby Bethesda, MD.
We're not out to irritate or insult those who disagree with us, but we're also unwilling to be intimidated by them, unwilling to let them control or suppress our message. (If Pepsi starts letting Coke decide where their ads should be placed or what they should say, let us know and maybe we'll reconsider.) If we can get conversations, civilized arguments, and fresh reconsiderations going with our billboards, so much the better. Religious leaders aren't ever our concern and we have no interest in their self-serving advice. Valid ideas of any kind can be debated without any need for phony reverence, pretentiousness, or special privileging.
The greater New York City area (including Brooklyn, and central and northern New Jersey) is home to millions of atheists, including many who still engage in religious activities, including Jewish and Muslim rituals. While we have little interest in arguing against cultural affirmations, we are eager to question the false foundations for religious ideas and to call out atheists who're helping keep irrationality alive.
Atheism needs the involvement of atheists, deserves the support of atheists and that's every bit as true of atheists who read Hebrew or Arabic, as it is of anyone else.
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Ezlivin
(8,153 posts)Seriously. My seminary had 4,000+ students, many of whom eventually fell away from the ministry after engaging in in-depth studies.
During my years in the "faith" I heard repeated tales from fellow believers of the doubts that plagued them. Every Xian I knew wrestled with doubt. Why not? The whole belief system is a house of cards, anchored only on wishes.
There are those seminary graduates who go on to pastor churches even though they no longer believe what they're preaching. The only reason they stay with the job is that they are not trained to do anything else. Usually ex-ministers end up selling insurance. A seminary degree is good for nothing in the real world.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Ezlivin
(8,153 posts)Well, that's how I view it now. Back in 1990 it made sense.
I took back my mind and have been fine ever since.
humblebum
(5,881 posts)"You know it's a myth". Perhaps, if it said something to the effect, "Have you ever considered ...?" instead. To say that "you know" when in fact they do not "know" is deceptively offensive. The term to know in such a context is ambiguous, and equally equivocal is the term "myth." To some it implies an unprovable legend. To others, a lie.
saras
(6,670 posts)humblebum
(5,881 posts)there are other ways of knowing?