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Related: About this forumAtheist, on a Religious Campus
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/03/19/atheist-secular-students-becoming-established-religious-campusesMarch 19, 2012 - 3:00am
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Allie Grasgreen
As calls for interfaith efforts on campuses have increased, so too have complaints from secular students who say theyre being left out of the conversation complaints that at some institutions, fall on deaf ears. And even though more advocates of religious pluralism are coming forward on behalf of these students, and success stories of new groups on some campuses are inspiring others, many are still having trouble taking hold.
Particularly at religious colleges. Secular student groups at Baylor University, the University of Notre Dame and Duquesne University have been denied official recognition, even as organizations have sprouted up on a handful of other campuses (and at dozens of nonreligious colleges). Students say these groups are essential for providing a safe space to talk freely, but many activists and campus officials are urging colleges not to wait for students to form their own groups, and rather to reach out to them proactively.
Eboo Patel, founder of the Interfaith Youth Core, a Chicago-based organization that promotes pluralism on campuses (with and without religious affiliations), said as many as one in five students who work with his organization are nonreligious. More and more humanist students are choosing Roman Catholic, Lutheran and Methodist institutions, he said.
They are clearly involved in interfaith cooperation not because they are religious themselves, but because they feel it is a part of their identities to build religious relationships with people of other identities, Patel said. Theyre tired of having their choice and other religious choices maligned. I think they realize that its of a piece together, meaning that when you stand up for somebody elses right to be religious, youre standing up for your own right to choose none of the above.
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Atheist, on a Religious Campus (Original Post)
cbayer
Mar 2012
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longship
(40,416 posts)1. Not unusual
Dan Barker and others have been compiling otherwise known-as theists to admit they are non-believers. The advantage of this program is that it's anonymous.
Barker is in correspondence with many, even well known, religious people who have given up the ghost (so to speak) of theology. Nowhere is this more common than in America's most prestigious religious education institutions.
Barker himself is a former evangelist preacher (speaking in tongues and the whole deal --- but no poisonous snakes). Others with similar experiences are Michael Shermer, Scientific American columnist and publisher of Skeptic Magazine, all the broadcasters at Reasonable Doubts (one of the best podcasts on the Net), and many others.
The religious academic world is being rocked by the inescapable conclusion that the common experience of all these apostates is the study of scripture. The more educated one is on what the Bible says, instead of what ones pastor is stating it says, is the extent to which the whole philosophy collapses.
No friend of Democratic Party, another says the same, Robert M. Price. I disagree with his politics but he has some of the best arguments against lunatic theism. Plus, he's a very outspoken Biblical scholar. Yet another former fundamentalist who calls themself an atheist.
It's happening before our very eyes. Regretably, many are too afraid to "come out" and others who do, like Price, will still vote for the Repuke theocrats.
Barker is in correspondence with many, even well known, religious people who have given up the ghost (so to speak) of theology. Nowhere is this more common than in America's most prestigious religious education institutions.
Barker himself is a former evangelist preacher (speaking in tongues and the whole deal --- but no poisonous snakes). Others with similar experiences are Michael Shermer, Scientific American columnist and publisher of Skeptic Magazine, all the broadcasters at Reasonable Doubts (one of the best podcasts on the Net), and many others.
The religious academic world is being rocked by the inescapable conclusion that the common experience of all these apostates is the study of scripture. The more educated one is on what the Bible says, instead of what ones pastor is stating it says, is the extent to which the whole philosophy collapses.
No friend of Democratic Party, another says the same, Robert M. Price. I disagree with his politics but he has some of the best arguments against lunatic theism. Plus, he's a very outspoken Biblical scholar. Yet another former fundamentalist who calls themself an atheist.
It's happening before our very eyes. Regretably, many are too afraid to "come out" and others who do, like Price, will still vote for the Repuke theocrats.
deacon_sephiroth
(731 posts)2. I love the signs, "teach the controversy" and the 15% are my favs. n/t
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)3. I went to a Presbyterian university.
Many years ago. They have a religion department, where the profs have all gone to either Princeton or Harvard. We had to take 6 hours of religion, none of which was indoctrinating us. They have a huge chapel and ministers and Sunday services, but nobody was pushing anyone into anything.
But then they are liberal Xtians, unlike Baylor, in Waco, the "Vatican City of the Baptists" as Molly Ivins put it.
My parents were horrified that I had cousins who went to Baylor, where girls could not wear slacks or shorts on campus. If I hadn't gone to Trinity U. I would have gone to Southern Methodist University, which was another liberal xtian rich kids' school.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)4. Do you identify as an atheist? If so, how were you treated/received at this University?
dmallind
(10,437 posts)5. Get used to the marginalization and scorn, kids. Fight back harder.