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Related: About this forumThe phantom menace of militant atheism
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/07/militant-atheism-religious-apologists-intellectualsNick Cohen
The Observer, Sunday 7 September 2014
Save our soles: the 2014 World Humanist Congress in Oxford. . Photograph: Martin Godwin
My family went into central London last week. After they'd gone, I found myself checking the web for reports of bomb blasts. Absurd and paranoid of me, of course. Rationally, I know that a motorist is more likely to kill you than a terrorist. Ever since Iraq, I have also known that the intelligence services' "threats" can be imaginary. But I know this, too, and so does everyone else: if a bomb explodes, no one will think that a "militant atheist" has attacked his or her country. No one will mutter: "I wonder if someone has taken this god delusion argument too far." Or: "Atheists should have known that violent words lead to violent deeds."
The police don't send undercover agents into sceptic societies and parliament doesn't pass emergency laws to combat atheist violence. Fanatics threaten European Muslims if they abandon their faith but no atheist will attack them if they keep it. No one thinks that atheists threaten the lives of their fellow citizens anywhere in the west.
And yet across what passes for the intelligentsia, moral equivalence holds sway. There is militant religion on one side and militant atheism on the other. We've no obligation to make a choice between them. Indeed, we should devote our energies to attacking atheism rather than religion. You'd never guess it from the way believers and conventional intellectuals throw the term around, but "militant atheism" has a specific meaning. Marxist-Leninists, who persecuted all faiths whenever they assumed dictatorial power, were authentic militants. If you want to see militant atheism today, look at China, which sends supporters of Falun Gong to its black jails and bulldozes Catholic churches.
If you were foolish enough to take the west's religious apologists at their word, you'd think that atheists were proposing the same pogroms here. Their victimhood takes two malign forms. First and most prominently, the Christian right is rallying opposition to equality with the cry that the "intolerance of aggressive secularism", in the words of the communities secretary, Eric Pickles, is threatening faith. You get a taste of the hysteria on the right when you discover that the cause of the anger was a court ruling that a local council could not include Church of England prayers in its formal meetings. (As a public body, it had to respect the views of councillors and voters of other faiths or none.)
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The phantom menace of militant atheism (Original Post)
cbayer
Sep 2014
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(82,333 posts)1. He must get along swimmingly with Harris.
He was an advocate of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and a critic of the Stop the War Coalition. In 2006, he was a leading signatory to the Euston Manifesto, which proposed "a new political alignment", in which the left opposes terrorism and anti-Americanism. An opponent of what he has termed the "tyrannophile left", Cohen has criticised such people as Andrew Murray and George Galloway, while expressing his admiration for the opposition movements in countries such as Belarus. Cohen is an atheist. In August 2014, Cohen was one of 200 public figures who were signatories to a letter to The Guardian opposing Scottish independence in the run-up to September's referendum on that issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Cohen
cbayer
(146,218 posts)2. I was not familiar with him, though he seems to be very well known
by the regulars at this site.
The number of messages removed by moderators in the comments section is very noticeable.