I had to go back and see what you were talking about.

or the ones who choose to not download her music?


Tikki

Not the first time.

Why should I believe her?

Someone using the the atheist to explain sooo much about her life.


Tikki

Change the channel.

except atheist's define her. That she wants known.

Tikki

How can one have an uniformed post about something that doesn't exist?


It was a stupid rumor apparently started by the RW nutcase web site "The Conservative Tribune".... which started an internet rumor.... with zero indication of what atheists hate her song. Not a mention of an atheist group or even individual who has a problem with it.

But of course you fell for it.

Try to get informed yourself, Dear.

Dear, dear.

for political reasons.

Not really clear what the fuck you meant by posting that, but if you want an example of religious assholes attacking a musical group, you just bumbled across the anthem inspired by it.

You're not exempt.

I have two of her albums.

Go figure.

country music. I could care less what her faith is.

to be honest i only listen to "classic rock" or classical music.

Those nasty evil secularists are saying wicked things about me.

Get a huge sympathy record buy.

The Chick Fil A here was purely jammed when that brouhaha with the gay took place, some of my own family went several times to show their support for Mr Cathy and his company.

It was a brilliant marketing move to a vast audience with more dollars than cents, Ms Underwood is most fortunate to have such unflagging publicists on her staff.

Oh, I'll eat it if a host puts it on my plate but I won't seek it out, ever.

George HW Bush famously hated broccoli.

I reserve my actual musical hatred for Disco but I have a little residual left over to have a dislike of most country music.

Oddly enough there is some sacred music I actually like.

For a penance you can watch Saturday Night Fever on repeat for the rest of the weekend, and make this picture your wallpaper...





You're Welcome!

It would help if there was some content in your post.

and all of the contemporary Christian community to be smarmy.

Notice I did not say all country, but most.

Considering the reactions to Hank Jr. vs the Dixie Chicks, my harsh feelings against the genre are justified and as Natalie Maines said, there are no stereotypes about country, since the stereotypes have proven true.

Underwood is one lucky dingbat who won the lottery and never earned her position.

I cannot turn the channel on Ms. Underwood since I was never a fan to begin with.

Honestly it seems that whenever anyone tries to write a song about their religion the song always sucks. If their music really is inspired by God then their God has really crappy taste in music.

Since historically there's great music inspired by religion.

In the last few weeks I have been seeing small hit pieces on DU trying to tie atheists with hate and misogyny. Mostly they are coming out of the religious forum here as is this piece of dung. This is getting old and tired.

It would be good if you God folk could find something better to do with your divine inspiration than accusing us of hating you. It may be that someday that burden of emptiness and inferiority inside of you that forces you to hide behind a cloak of false superiority will fall from your shoulders and you will see that it is not Gods love that will save you but your brothers. Amen.

There have been some articles about individuals who have expressed views about islam which some find objectionable. There have been some about individuals who some people find to be sexist. Generally, these articles have been written by atheists and don't tie atheists as a group to anything.

You are totally distorting what is going on here, but that chip on your shoulder may be causing you to list and see the hate coming from without when it is actually coming from within.

Anyway, welcome to the religion group and to DU.

Do you really think what he said here was called for? What does it say when someone's first post in a group is a direct attack on some of the people that post in that group?

I Read Carries statement and she said that if you don't like her music you can change the station. It was the gossip columns Katie Oderberg who made the atheist haters ref. It was that distortion which was brought to DU not what Carrie said.

It was your op on atheism and its women's problem that tried to equate Sam Harris and Dawkin's misogyny with atheism as though Atheism is the problem and not the general pervasive misogyny in our society and especially in world religion. Granted you didn't write the piece but you did send it along with your blessing.
I would rather chew my leg off than spend another moment in the religious forum.

and did not in any way equate the misogyny of two individuals with atheism in general. In fact, it made the point that this is not reflective of atheism in general and should be challenged.

Of course there is pervasive misogyny in our society and atheist organizations are not immune to it. But here we have an opportunity to address it and do things differently.

The demographics of atheists show a tendency to be liberal/progressive and young. This is a demographic that could effectively stand up against the pervasive misogyny which you correctly identify and not repeat the patterns all too often seen in religious organizations.

Sorry you won't be around to get a more coherent and balanced idea of what goes on in this group, but that is, of course, entirely up to you.

Nice talking to you. Enjoy your time on DU.

See you down the road.

You never know when you might need them.

For you.

but the tune remains the same.

And what is it that compels you to type such nonsense? I wonder how you'd react to a Taylor Swift song. Let's see.

Her comments sound somewhat cynical to me. Let's face it, she doesn't seem to be a performer who would appeal very much to atheists in the first place, but by bad mouthing the nonbelievers, she would gain approval by the jesus crowd, regardless of the quality of her music.

but this is the first I've heard of any need to reject a performer's music because one doesn't share his or her religion or because some of the numbers express religious sentiments one. doesn't share.This is a bit reminiscent of the right-wing boycott of the Dixie Chicks.

She sings gospel or something? I like Kirk Franklin.

She's really quite good, if you like country at all.

I'd link the 2013 Superbowl national anthem, but the NFL is dicks about what you can put on youtube, and the only copy there looks like it was recorded with a toaster.

Slash his leather seats and all? I liked that song.

Nope, you were right. Carrie Underwood.

I usually do rap or r and b. But I like Loretta Lynn.

I really liked it alot. Made me laugh.

The OP should be more thorough in vetting these daily bashes to avoid passing on misinformation that only serves to create ill will and intolerance.

The whole article can be found at the link below:

"Claims that atheists are trying to ban Underwood's song "Something in the Water" are faulty on multiple levels. No atheists have complained about the song's content; and Underwood's remarks implying otherwise were made years prior to the track's release and in response to a completely unrelated question."

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/underwood.asp#0qZgTrZ5vHchDM4R.99

First, the box quote in your OP about "change the channel" was lifted from an unrelated 2012 article, which, in case you missed it, was linked in the Snopes debunking. It only references her fans. There is nothing about any atheist, or any atheist outrage, or backlash, or criticism towards this singer. That fabricated little tidbit was added by the blogger at the celebrity gossip website without citation to any actual atheists who said anything about this song or the singer. It's a hoax, a fantasy being bantered about by some very insecure folks.

There are no "Atheist Haters" on a tirade about some little known gospel singer, but there seems to be plenty of people who hate atheists enough to lie and manufacture nonexistent conspiracy theories about imaginary hordes of evil atheists, evidently a popular theme that is being pushed by lots of rightwing websites linking to similar unfounded claims, which you found to be just as credible.

Why don't you just ask the atheists here if anyone really hates this woman? The replies might ease some of your fears.

A rather verbose effort and nary a word about "banning".

I might comment on defensiveness but that would be petty. And unnecessary.

BTW, if your understanding of Underwood is that she is "some little known gospel singer", you really shouldn't be popping off.

lets get back on track.

You posted this discredited anti-atheist piece from a celebrity gossip blog for a reason. Even if you are an ardent fan, and now that you're aware that there is no evidence to substantiate your OP, what makes you believe there exists a credible claim that we atheists are all riled up over this particular song? The agenda is yours, of course, but what would be your intellectual rationale to explain why atheists would have any compunction to react by "hating" something that we don't even believe exists?

I'll go tell the authorities where you are.

You can hone your mind-reading skills until they arrive.

See you tomorrow.

It's not more complex than that.

Controversy is free advertising. You can't listen to a country station for 10 minutes without hearing some BS about god. It is the norm, not the exception. And carrie is no different. Many of her songs are in some way related to her faith.

I listen to her because she has a huge dynamic range, and is a pleasure to listen to. She cranked out the national anthem at the previous superbowl with enough power to grunt the space shuttle into orbit.

This song might be slightly more explicit, but nothing new in her discography.

And I would think you'd have at least suspect she's religious when you become a fan, so I don't see reason for any hating.

I think most atheists are used to having god shoved into their throats. I cannot tell you have many times a day I read please pray for xxxxx. not going to happen. But the music trolls a just love to cause trouble and pretend to be many who they are not and sock puppets abound. She is pregnant now and been in the business long enough to learn to just let it go. I smell promotion to god lovers.

I've never really enjoyed her music regardless of her beliefs.

Well, actually, that's not true. I thought "Jesus Take the Wheel" was more than just corny. It was really ignorant.

It's all about giving up one's own responsibility to some mythical being:

Jesus take the wheel
Take it from my hands
Cause I can't do this on my own
I'm letting go
So give me one more chance
Save me from this road I'm on
Jesus take the wheel

I don't endorse that at all. One is always in control of one's destiny. The decisions one makes and the actions one takes.

Believing in some mythical being or beings who hold sway over us just allows us to absolve ourselves of responsibility for our own actions.

Take your own damned wheel Carrie. You're the one who drove the vehicle recklessly onto black ice. Not Jesus.

I don't know Carrie from Eve. I don't think I ever heard her name until this song was discussed here. I agree with her on this point. I would change the channel immediately. I probably wouldn't be looking at that channel in the first place. She has a right to her views. It's called religious freedom. As long as she doesn't try to write laws based on her song, let her sing.