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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts) Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:58 AM Oct 2014

Vatican Proposes "Dramatic Shift" In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples

In a dramatic shift in tone, a Vatican document said on Monday that homosexuals had "gifts and qualities to offer" and asked if Catholicism could accept gays and recognize positive aspects of same-sex couples.

The document, prepared after a week of discussions at an assembly of 200 bishops on the family, said the Church should challenge itself to find "a fraternal space" for homosexuals without compromising Catholic doctrine on family and matrimony.

While the text did not signal any change in the Church's condemnation of homosexual acts or its opposition to gay marriage, it used language that was less judgmental and more compassionate than past Vatican statements under previous popes.

The document will be the basis for discussion for the second and final week of the assembly, known as a synod, which was called by Pope Francis and focuses on the theme of the family.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/13/catholic-church-gays-_n_5976134.html

Where "Dramatic Shift" means "no change". Where else among progressives would this sort of perfidious bigotry be tolerated, let alone celebrated?

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Vatican Proposes "Dramatic Shift" In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 OP

Nowhere else skepticscott Oct 2014 #1

Have you become embittered towards DU after your recent sabbatical? rug Oct 2014 #3

Hmm, who to believe? Someone who calls himself Warren Stupidity or John Thavis. rug Oct 2014 #2

Says a guy named rug Cartoonist Oct 2014 #8

The PR campaign continues full steam ahead. trotsky Oct 2014 #4

Blank Frank would LOVE to welcome homosexuals with open arms, if it was up to him, mr blur Oct 2014 #5

I've heard that sinister forces might be involved. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #6

Yes, I've heard that guys like that skepticscott Oct 2014 #7

Blank Frank? Act_of_Reparation Oct 2014 #9

skepticscott

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1. Nowhere else

Reply to Warren Stupidity (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:03 AM

Oct 2014

You've come to the right place if you want to see alleged progressives applaud this as something wonderful, and as a "step in the right direction", etc., etc.

The usual nauseating apologetics by the usual suspects. There's something deeply disturbing about people whose fawning praise is for the church as they wish it were or hope it might be, rather than for how it really is.

rug

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3. Have you become embittered towards DU after your recent sabbatical?

Reply to skepticscott (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:14 AM

Oct 2014

rug

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2. Hmm, who to believe? Someone who calls himself Warren Stupidity or John Thavis.

Reply to Warren Stupidity (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:13 AM

Oct 2014

John Thavis, Vatican expert and author of the bestselling 2013 book "The Vatican Diaries", called the document "an earthquake" in the Church's attitude towards gays.

Not that your mindset is susceptible to engaging different ideas on anything related to the RCC, but here's the full text of the relatio.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2014/10/13/full-text-of-the-family-synods-mid-term-report/