Racists.

--imm

The segregation isn't just racial, either--it's gender based.

It really doesn't sound like an easy issue to even get your arms around, never mind tackle. From the article:

is fetishizing? The separation of Church and State aren't important issues?
I actually get Congressional alerts from a Humanism organization about many social justice issues. Including Gay marriage and voting rights.
The writer also makes the big mistake of equating atheism with humanism.
The truth is, any organization has to make decisions on which problems to tackle, given limited resources. There is usually an ongoing internal debate about such things. And going outside the mandate is always at issue.
So this condescending, error ridden article, is just an insult.

As well as the many extant types of privilege.

Confuse the two?

Are concerned with science in the classroom and it's impact on future STEM majors.

Because I see so many churches involved in this issue.

Amicus briefs for the various creationism court cases, including a pivitol one in Dover.
Or the work against changes in text books.
But the media ignoring humanist groups? Are you surprised when it's not the atheist"church" meeting in bars?

Google it.
But posting this shows your opinion of Humanist groups, so not worth my time to do your research.

I suppose making a personal insult is easier than a three minute google.

I thought you considered them a bastion of white priveldge?
You also seem to agree with this article's condemnation of these groups.
You think my saying so is insulting?

There is also the problem that I am on a tablet, and linking is very difficult.

You might start here;

https://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php

In practice I like it despite the class and race privilege it often enjoys.

There's a reason the CSH uses the adjective "secular"; there's also religious humanism.

http://huumanists.org/about/religious-humanism

There are even notable Christian humanists.

http://huumanists.org/about/religious-humanism

no one said different.

You should then know that these org.s are involved with social justice.
And just because they are not active enough in this one cause (which I have shown they are active in) can be leveled at any organization that picks one issue over another.

Why isn't the WWF addressing intercity poverty?

Looks like the article author just wants another way top bash atheists, even though this has nothing to do with them.

Her point, though, is that there are long-standing barriers in the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields, which particularly impacts women and people of color.

and why are humanists groups in particular singled out with not doing enough?

What are all the Catholic and Christian schools doing? What is the NEA or the AAAS doing?
Obviously not enough.

When that happens, it's worth listening to. More Catholics and other members of religion should do the same.

It is an important issue for everyone. Seems like the writer just has an ax to grind. Why even mention atheists?

And it's stupid and offensive to tell atheists what pet issue they should or shouldn't address, it betrays an ignorance of what atheism even is and is non-sensic and arrogant.

I wish all atheists also were progressive secular humanists active in the issues I care about, who wouldn't care?

Now, here's a suggestion that makes sense, "Catholics should work on making their dogma less misogynistic"

Because that's what she is and that's what the article is about.

Maybe you should send her an email and tell her to sit down and STFU.

Here it is: shutch2396@aol.com

http://womenleadershipproject.blogspot.com/

I didn't expect it to be you.

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She probably uses Explorer, too.

Got it.

Got it?

Unless it is some Ferguson reference in which case get over yourself.

Note, I typed might.

Get over your privilege.

I can't see my privilege because I think AOL sucks for email and Explorer for a browser? Gmail and Chrome are free and far superior products. I use Android phones because of their open system and lack of elite control like Apple.

But, sure, it's my privilege concerning free tech apps that's causing me to make the offhand remark about using an AOL email.

Completely ignoring what this woman is saying about minorities and STEM, you're going on about browsers and apps. Your reaction is a smug comment about outdated technology rather than the human beings who are systemically excluded from the field.

Nope, not a whiff of privilege here. Even though it manifests itself most commonly in offhand, unthinking remarks.

So, how do you like the latest WoW? Awesome!

That practically makes her a Stone Age living fossil. (Or maybe a goatherder.)

And there is no evidence that atheists, even conservative ones, are "hating on" anything. If anyone is "hating on," ...

I agree it's an important issue; but seems to me to be an educational issue, not an atheist one.

Dragging atheists into it is part of the author's agenda.

Fixed now.

You know humanists and atheist aren't the same. So should the author, but he has an agenda to bash atheist.

Thought that was him. It's her.
Not sure if this is a problem that atheists need to address, other than calling for better science education for all.

Why doesn't PETA deal with this, what about the ACLU? Why is prejudice in STEM education an atheist issue.
Not that atheist can't also work for social justice, as the do.

Didn't we hash this out already?

Look at the picture, ed.

for society as a whole. Liberals, such as Ms. Hutchinson, need to raise the issue with any group where they have a respected voice and consequent leverage.

but, why single out atheist for this?
And by the way, strong and true science education is very much an issue for atheist and humanist groups.
The teaching of scientific method is as well. As is combating the religious forces that want to water down science or teach things that are wrong (creationism, GCC denial).
Why do you think humanist groups in particular are not doing enough, rather than all of us a s society.

aren't doing enough. That's Ms. Hutchinson's contention, and she's a humanist speaking to other humanists about issues she considers vital to the future of low-income youth. It's her own area of experience and expertise.

In the context of this article.
Why else would be talking about it in this forum?

Do you think I said this issue overall is not important?

instead of scouring every day for articles about atheists and pretending that you posting them has absolutely nothing to do with the article?

Do you actually think this requires scouring?