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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 10:24 AM Nov 2014

Top Vatican prosecutor failed to report abuser


A prominent American Jesuit recently named by Pope Francis to prosecute priests accused of sexually abusing minors under church law was himself one of several Catholic officials who allowed a notorious abusive priest to remain in ministry for years after learning of his long history of sexual abuses, legal documents show.

The Rev. Robert J. Geisinger, named in September as the Vatican’s “promoter of justice,’’ was the second-highest-ranking official among the Chicago Jesuits in the 1990s when leaders were facing multiple abuse complaints against the Rev. Donald J. McGuire, a globe-trotting priest with many influential supporters, including Mother Teresa of Calcutta.




But the Jesuits failed to notify police or take effective steps to prevent McGuire from continuing to molest minors.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/11/22/vatican-new-top-prosecutor-abusive-priests-implicated-past-failure-stop-notorious-abuser-donald-mcguire/gPaBPJUdvuTy5PSTl1j5sM/story.html

I actually have no snarky comment at all about this. There is nothing more to say.
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Top Vatican prosecutor failed to report abuser (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 OP
promoter of justice Cartoonist Nov 2014 #1
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #2
They'll have to take the cheapness of the shot up with the Boston Globe Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #3
Yeah, but you're just exploiting the story skepticscott Nov 2014 #5
Is it a bizarre delusion to believe that Frank is changing anything Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #6
He's holding a raffle, for crying out loud! Cartoonist Nov 2014 #7
Rec only for visibility. Like the OP, I have nothing to add. merrily Nov 2014 #4
Rec in honor of skepticscott nt Cartoonist Nov 2014 #8
It appears that using the word "pederast" in Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #9
I didn't alert but it might have been the fact he said there were DU defenders of the crime. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #10
well justin there are. There have been repeated efforts made in this forum Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #11
I don't see anyone defend pederasty here! hrmjustin Nov 2014 #12
well they don't come out and say "pederasty is great". Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #13
Are you claiming that members here support pederasty? hrmjustin Nov 2014 #14
yes justin, anyone defending an institution that protects pederasts is indirectly Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #16
That is a rather loaded statement. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #17
some have and some haven't. The ones that defend deflect and attack the messenger Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #18
Well he can speak for himself but I think that the Catholics on this board make clear they have hrmjustin Nov 2014 #19
That bears a semblance to reason only if you believe the RCC equals pederasty. rug Nov 2014 #15
Don't look over there, look here! The pope is installing showers for the homeless! trotsky Nov 2014 #20

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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
3. They'll have to take the cheapness of the shot up with the Boston Globe
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:02 AM
Nov 2014

where this story is above the fold on the front page of the Sunday Edition.

I just think gods work in mysterious ways.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
5. Yeah, but you're just exploiting the story
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:16 PM
Nov 2014

to score points. And to perpetuate the meme that all religious believers are mentally ill.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
6. Is it a bizarre delusion to believe that Frank is changing anything
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:39 PM
Nov 2014

despite all the evidence to the contrary? Probably not, given that it is so widely held.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
9. It appears that using the word "pederast" in
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 04:05 PM
Nov 2014

a reply to a Boston Globe sourced article about how the newly appointed sex crimes Vatican prosecutor protected pederasts is a hideable offense.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
10. I didn't alert but it might have been the fact he said there were DU defenders of the crime.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 04:12 PM
Nov 2014

The results would be interesting to see if someone has them.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
11. well justin there are. There have been repeated efforts made in this forum
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:46 PM
Nov 2014

just about every time this issue comes up to deny and deflect and denounce the messenger. You know that. I know that. The person who alerted knew that.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
13. well they don't come out and say "pederasty is great".
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:57 PM
Nov 2014

But you know that too. Instead they defend their beloved church from all attacks, no matter how horrific the crime.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
16. yes justin, anyone defending an institution that protects pederasts is indirectly
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:32 PM
Nov 2014

supporting pederasty. Just like anyone who supports an institution that promotes homophobia is indirectly supporting homophobia. Just like anyone who supports an institution that promotes discrimination against women is indirectly supporting discrimination against women.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
17. That is a rather loaded statement.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:35 PM
Nov 2014

I think the Roman Catholics of this board have made clear that they are disgusted by the crimes committed against children in their church.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
18. some have and some haven't. The ones that defend deflect and attack the messenger
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:38 PM
Nov 2014

are the ones scott was referring to and they most certainly exist.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
19. Well he can speak for himself but I think that the Catholics on this board make clear they have
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:46 PM
Nov 2014

criticism of their church. And if people would do less religion bashing and more listening we would realize many of the criticisms you and your frirnds hajve are shared by me and my friends.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
15. That bears a semblance to reason only if you believe the RCC equals pederasty.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:28 PM
Nov 2014

That would be a simple-minded belief.

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