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Greatest I am

(235 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:28 PM Dec 2014

Billion + believe in Satan. Should all schools be mandated to teach Creationism?

Billion + believe in Satan. Should all schools be mandated to teach Creationism?

We must save our children from foolish belief in the supernatural.

Education is the only tool that we have to drag ourselves and our children out of ignorance and superstition and that education should include that it is foolish to read myth literally. No more Dark Ages should be allowed.

Comparative Religion should be taught to insure that no child is lost to creationist intellectual dissonance. We must expose our children to Comparative Religion as soon as they can understand Evolution which would be taught alongside of it.

To do less would be shirking our duty to our children and their young minds. If you do not supports this type of all-inclusive education, please show why you oppose it?

Remember that when President Bush backed up stem cell research, it gave other countries a chance to advance away from the U.S. and hurt the U.S economy.

If the U.S. fails to educate it’s children properly in Comparative Religion and Evolution --- and the various sciences that stem from it, --- the U.S. will shrink it’s economy and power as compared to those countries who have a fuller and more intelligent education program.

Do you agree that it is the duty of the U.S. education system to maintain a first world standard of education in the teaching of Creationism, Comparative Religion and Evolution, --- and catch up to more intelligent countries?

Regards
DL

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Billion + believe in Satan. Should all schools be mandated to teach Creationism? (Original Post) Greatest I am Dec 2014 OP
I'm not sure I really understand where you are going with this, but cbayer Dec 2014 #1
Evolution yes, creationism never. Comparative religion only as part of philosophy that include Plato on point Dec 2014 #2
What does Satan have to do with creationism? rug Dec 2014 #3
Also my question. okasha Dec 2014 #8
What does mice have to do with men. rug Dec 2014 #9
At least they're botb mammals. okasha Dec 2014 #10
Unless you're saying... gcomeau Dec 2014 #4
Yet astrology would be a more beneficial learning experience than creationism. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #30
Comparative Christianity would be great as safeinOhio Dec 2014 #5
great! they will also teach "earth rests on the back of a giant turtle" as equally valid msongs Dec 2014 #6
turtles all the way down! n/t Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #7
Turtle is a term that creates quite a bit of anxiety for those of us cbayer Dec 2014 #16
Summer villas in Italy are generally free of turtles skepticscott Dec 2014 #21
What does Satan and creationism have to do with one another? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #11
Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't! cbayer Dec 2014 #12
Lol you! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #13
Wow, just wow! I will have one of the servants sent right up to you cbayer Dec 2014 #14
. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #15
I don't tbink it'Justin who's incoherent. okasha Dec 2014 #17
That would be amazing! Both of our jets are out right now cbayer Dec 2014 #18
I'll have the butler contact the pilots forthwith. okasha Dec 2014 #19
We shall save him from his childhood indoctrination come hell…. cbayer Dec 2014 #20
I'll drive down after my pigs are through rutting for truffles. rug Dec 2014 #22
Harumph. The truffles in Italy are far superior. cbayer Dec 2014 #23
Speaking of foie gras, did you see this? rug Dec 2014 #24
I did and apologize for not responding to it. cbayer Dec 2014 #25
It's an amazing story. rug Dec 2014 #27
Particularly for one who loves foie gras and has to struggle with the ethical cbayer Dec 2014 #28
Pfft. Let them eat liver. rug Dec 2014 #29
Satan doesn't believe in Creationism. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #26
No mandate! Creationism, maybe, in a CR class, NOT in a Science class. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #31
"We must save our children from foolish belief in the supernatural." djean111 Dec 2014 #32
I disagree. Since religion plays such a large role in the politics of this world, cbayer Dec 2014 #33
Starting in what grade? djean111 Dec 2014 #34
I don't know at what age. cbayer Dec 2014 #35
I think that if children are young enough, they might not understand that the concept of djean111 Dec 2014 #36
I don't know about you, but I started teaching my children that bigotry cbayer Dec 2014 #37

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
1. I'm not sure I really understand where you are going with this, but
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:31 PM
Dec 2014

I think that children should be taught evolution and comparative religions and not creationism.

I don't think you are going to find much disagreement on that here.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
8. Also my question.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 07:02 PM
Dec 2014

What do quadratic equations have to do with this fall's most fashionable colors?

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
4. Unless you're saying...
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:37 PM
Dec 2014

...they should be taught how creationism is a giant load of made up nonsense with no grounding in real world evidence of any kind that flies in the face of every scrap of data we have on the subject... no. No they should not be"taught Creationism". Any more than they should be taught astrology.

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
5. Comparative Christianity would be great as
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:41 PM
Dec 2014

there are over 30,000 Christian sects in the world today. Each one has it's own interpretation of the Bible and think the others will burn in hell. That'll make their heads spin.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
11. What does Satan and creationism have to do with one another?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:03 PM
Dec 2014

And no I don't want public schools teaching creationism.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
17. I don't tbink it'Justin who's incoherent.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:51 PM
Dec 2014

Do you need the footman flown up to NYC? I can send the Gulfstream for him.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
18. That would be amazing! Both of our jets are out right now
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:06 PM
Dec 2014

One picking up lobsters from Maine and the other picking up some children from Eastern Europe. Hush, hush on that one.

It's mad, I tell you.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
22. I'll drive down after my pigs are through rutting for truffles.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:39 PM
Dec 2014

Give the butler the day off.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
23. Harumph. The truffles in Italy are far superior.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 12:05 AM
Dec 2014

I will have some sent directly to you when one of my jets gets back.

In the meantime, please enjoy the foie gras I sent.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
28. Particularly for one who loves foie gras and has to struggle with the ethical
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 12:19 AM
Dec 2014

dilemma that it presents.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
32. "We must save our children from foolish belief in the supernatural."
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:17 AM
Dec 2014

Which why we don't teach comparative religion to children.
If parents or their church want to teach this, fine. Does not belong in public school.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
33. I disagree. Since religion plays such a large role in the politics of this world,
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:05 AM
Dec 2014

I think it is foolish to ignore it. The more kids know, the more they can rationally analyze what is going on. Plus, I think that it could have an impact on prejudice and increase tolerance across cultures.

I do not think it should be taught in any way that would encourage certain beliefs, but I do think it should be taught as an academic subject.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
34. Starting in what grade?
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:21 AM
Dec 2014

I don't think it is possible to teach it to children without encouraging certain beliefs. Even saying it has a large role in the politics of this world gives belief a weight that I think is invalid.
It would be like, in a way! - teaching young children about the KKK and its beliefs.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
35. I don't know at what age.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:39 AM
Dec 2014

I think it's very possible to teach religion without encourage beliefs, just like it's possible to teach about political parties or any number of things.

If you do not recognize the role that religion plays in the politics of this world,then I could see why you might not agree that this is important.

Comparing religion to the KKK? Really?

OTOH, do you think that children should not be taught about hate groups?

SPLC has a great program called "Teaching Tolerance". It is a good template for this kind of program.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
36. I think that if children are young enough, they might not understand that the concept of
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:52 AM
Dec 2014

hating a group of people is wrong, just like if they are surrounded by religious trappings at home during the holidays, they might not realize that religion is just a belief, not based on facts. There is that notion that if so very many people believe something, it must be true.

The thing about political parties is that they are tangible in a way that religion is not.
Very regrettable that religion plays any part in politics, in my opinion.

You know I was not actually comparing religion to the KKK, right? Because the KKK hates people because of their race, not their differing beliefs or lack of beliefs.

Politics is a long long way from Creationism, too. Teaching creationism, which is where theists usually want to start in public schools, is just a way to open the door to proselytizing, IMO etc.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
37. I don't know about you, but I started teaching my children that bigotry
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:59 AM
Dec 2014

was wrong from the time we could hold a conversation.

And I taught my kids about all kinds of different religions and exposed them to all kinds of religious people without instilling in them any specific beliefs.

You may not want religion to play a role in politics, but it does all over the world.

I am totally with you about creationism. It has no place in school curriculums except as an example of how religion can interfere with the teaching of science.

I also agree that there are risks that teaching religion can open a back door to proselytizing and that would have to be guarded against.

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