What other lies was I told in school???

It's ok to hate them, because it's about religion.

Disgusting.

In addition to all the lies you were told are all the truths that you should have been told, but weren't.

It is heartbreaking finding out what has been hidden, but I still like knowing the truth no matter how terrible it is.

After getting over the initial shock and betrayal I became determined to learn all I can.

I have been doing research since 2008.

I am now mentoring my 41 year old niece on this journey of U.S. historical truth.

The internet is an awesome tool !!!!!!!!

She can view the actual documents, listen to lectures, read independent news sources, etc.

She just added the Democracy Now app to her cell phone.

Link TV is a treasure trove of knowledge and truth.

Have a great Sunday.

help retrain all of us? This would be a valuable service.

Their website is user friendly and completely archived. (February 1996 to the present)

http://www.democracynow.org/

It is easy to navigate.

They have interviews with so many people that I admire;

Matt Taibbi
Jeremy Scahill
Howard Zinn (deceased)
Noam Chomsky
Dr. Cornel West
Bill McKibben
John Pilger
Robert Greenwald
Glenn Greenwald
Michael Moore
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Josh Fox
Daniel Ellsberg
Greg Palast
Naomi Wolf
Naomi Kline
Tavis Smiley

I watch hundreds of documentaries, listen to lectures, read articles from all over the world, read actual historical documents, listen to interviews etc.

A peoples history of the united states by Zinn

Makes me sick.

to religious sites.

fruit of the dumbing down of america, i presume.

So sad.

Then the follow up crossed my mind - they learned this simplistic hate somewhere...

they aren't racist/sexist/teabaggers, I doubt it.

with big families & the young ones all have plenty of friends looking to join the hate fests like this one

If it's not parking, then it's increased traffic. Here's a story about a Jewish synagogue that just wanted to upgrade their facility. I made deliveries there. It amounted to no more than adding two small buildings and repaving the parking lot on land they owned. The whole campus still only occupied about 60% of the hillside and blended in with the environment.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/TIBURON-Synagogue-expansion-fight-gets-ugly-2486822.php

A neighborhood squabble over the proposed expansion of a synagogue in Tiburon has turned into a high-stakes battle over religious freedom.

"Over 200 households have signed petitions," said Karen Nygren of the Tiburon Neighborhood Coalition, a group formed to fight Kol Shofar's plans. "It's not just a little group that is against this. We feel this is purely a land-use issue. It has nothing to do with religion."

The synagogue was already there. The final result was a very modern and clean campus that could have only raised property values in the neighborhood. I never attended any of the meetings or spoke with the opponents. Tiburon is a very very rich town. I think they worship money more than a Christian God.

Do you think this is a religious matter or a land use matter?

doesn't get you a different answer.

You still haven't addressed my question as to what you think is going on in Kennesaw, GA.

The Tiburon issue may have been a land issue, I don't know.

Do you think this one is? Avoiding the question a third time might lead one to assume the answer.

The GA one is good old Christianity at work. Nothing new there.

Peddle this where they welcome the Thought Police.

If you do not perceive the pretexts used by bigots who control governments, you are extraordinarily naive.

You're using the word "you" colloquially, right? Or were you being mean to me?

They built a mosque/convention center with vastly insufficient parking, the city counsel let it happen because they promised they would all carpool/take a bus or something so parking wouldn't be an issue ever. They took over a whole block of housing and were extremely misleading the whole time.

Just because religion in involved doesn't mean it's being opposed on religious grounds, of course no one was holding up "Ban islam" signs, so the reaction was a little more genuine.

I believe that something happen, but I would like to read for myself what actually happened.

Certainly there are cases where there are serious issues about land use and traffic, but one needs to look with a critical eye when muslims are being targeted in countries where bigotry against them is well established.

Fuck this town and its zealots. May their hell be real and they all rot in it.

That so called Christianity has killed as many or probably more and caused more wars that Islam.

... for freedom of religion.

You know, freedom to be just like us.

It's a plague!

nt

As long as the Nation of Islam can spread around the kind of money Hobby Lobby does.

in MI, churches have to have residential zoning. Strip mall is not residential, though they may have been going for a variance based on 'temporary' nature of the lease.

It's pretty elementary. In a democracy, you can speak out against democratic government. In the video, he does not advocate violence or the overthrow of the government. He is merely presenting an opinion.

His talk doesn't come near to violating any rational limitation on speech that should be allowed. Are you advocating a democracy where people are not allowed to openly question whether there is a better form of government than democracy? I wouldn't want to live under any such government.

Not sure what kind of democracy he wants, but it's not the same one I do.

Right now, freedom of religion is a convenient free pass. If I say that on judgment day, all the citizens of South Dakota will be fried in Hell, I'm a nut. If I say that on judgment day, all the eskimos will be fried in Hell, I'm a racist. If I say that on judgment day, all the Jews will be fried in Hell, I'm a hard line Quranic preacher (not just at the fringes of Islam).

The French Revolution did not ban the Catholic Church, it just made all the clergy take an oath they would not fight the Republic. Modalities are open to discussion, there is probably a spectrum between harsh coercion (1793 was no picnic for the French clergy) and total free hate speech just because it's religion.

your defense of your sacred democracy?

You are a piece of work.

So, do you think the town is right to block this mosque? Do you stand with the protesters? Should we Ban Islam?

Just ask him.

Do you think they should prohibit the mosque from being opened here because of this individual?

BTW, he is listed as #85 on a 2010 list of influential muslims in the UK, and in the sub-category of education. This was a list put together by community vote.

What is a telecuranist? How did you find this 2011 video?

So, do you think that this kind of islamophobic post is ok because you would equally attack any other religion?

What is a telecuranist?

How did you find this 2011 video?

So, do you think that this kind of islamophobic post is ok because you would equally attack any other religion?

Do you think they should prohibit the mosque from being opened here because of this individual?

A google search of the term comes up with exactly nothing. That's astoundingly unusual. Did you make it up? Does it have to do with the koran or quran or something?

It's not a emotional trick at all. The emotional trick is posting something inflammatory that has virtually nothing to do with the subject at hand in order to create a disturbance. There are other words for it, but I will stick with your term.

I am quite sure you are willing to attack any other religion and that you don't single out just this one.

In your mission to get people all rev'ed up for the 2016 Hillary campaign, be careful about offending that huge portion of the population who have a religious affiliation.

This is really not all that complex. Welcome to DU, and I don't mean that sincerely.

…Kennesaw is the Atlanta suburb that passed an ordinance declaring that all heads of households must own a firearm (with certain exceptions.)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/29/1295761/-It-s-the-law-in-Kennesaw-everyone-MUST-own-a-gun#

"Kennesaw, Georgia, has the most liberal gun laws in the United States, in a state with liberal gun laws.

Let's start with the actual ordinance that was passed by the city of Kennesaw in 1982:

(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.
(b)Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.

An amendment to the gun ownership law grants exceptions to convicted felons, conscientious objectors and those who cannot afford a gun."

Full disclosure - I am a native Atlantan and have lived in the South for the majority of my life…..unfortunately.

Well armed militia and all that. Yikes. How do they feel about armed Muslims?

I go to Atlanta about twice a year and I'm staying away from Kennesaw.

because of friends who moved there from Central Florida.

Plain and simply, it's an area where the Klan is VERY strong.
And the area attracts like-minded people.

...and commuting to work. Same with Kennesaw.
In the 1980's, I was told, " The n*****s around here know not to be out after dark in Kennesaw."
But as more and more people move to that "little" mountain community, it's bound to change....for the better!
It was a long time coming, and the change is terrific, but the racists may or may not have changed much.
Either that, or they have moved on to other towns.

Hopefully the hate they taught their children will change, too.

I give credit to those that are taking a stand, but I fear for their safety.

I hope that Kennesaw will change as diversity is introduced. At least there was one person on the city council who voted the right way. I haven't been able to find out about him, but perhaps he is lying low.

Unfortunately, there are lots of young people in the photos of the protests, which is not a good sign.

The worst fucking racists I ever knew. When I was 10 years on they took me to a KKK cross burning. When I married a Jew they never spoke to me again. My aunt was the worst of the two, I heard she died a long slow painful death. She deserved it.

Kennesaw also made the news some years ago when they enacted an ordinance requiring every household to be armed.

fantasy here, In fact, according to the Marietta Daily Journal, a similar deal with a Pentecostal church was allowed without a single objection.

My ? - who spends their evening holding a sign "Ban Islam" ?
Hate is a priority with these people