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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:19 PM Dec 2014

Danger is my middle name!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/23/us-usa-ohio-zombie-idUSKBN0K11O920141223


(Reuters) - A suburban Cincinnati man's zombie-themed Nativity scene has caused quite a stir in his neighborhood, with some considering it a holiday treat. But others see a nightmare before Christmas.

Responding to two anonymous complaints, officials in Ohio's Sycamore Township said on Tuesday they have ordered Jasen Dixon to take down his display by Friday because it violates local property maintenance codes.

Dixon, who manages a haunted attraction in Indiana, faces a $1,000 fine if he does not remove the 10-foot by 10-foot structure he built three weeks ago.

He said he made the models for the zombie Mary and three wise men and borrowed props to make the Joseph and Jesus zombie figures. The baby Jesus is pale with totally white eyes, while the other life-sized figures are partly skeletal.



It is unclear if Dixon will fight the town, but when one person on his Facebook page urged him to keep the display up, he responded, "Dangers my middle name."

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Danger is my middle name! (Original Post) AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 OP
Ick! Sounds like he was looking to insult people. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #1
Poor taste perhaps but, I defend his right to do so davidsilver Dec 2014 #3
Welcome to DU and the religion room. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #7
Free speech is a principle. If he 'is no martyr', then we are without principle. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #4
lol please. He is testing things but he is no martyr! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #6
Technically not YET.. No. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #8
He is no martyr if he is alive. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #10
Disagree. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #12
Given his business, okasha Dec 2014 #21
Not sure I follow. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #24
According to your OP, okasha Dec 2014 #25
Oh, sorry. There were pictures in the Fox News article. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #26
Thanks. As noted, this is all going to come down to how local ordinances interpret it. okasha Dec 2014 #27
It certainly can, but I would have an interest in seeing those ordnances tossed/vacated if they AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #28
I'd call it a First Amendment issue unless there's some direct violation. okasha Dec 2014 #29
Fair enough. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #33
Not when you deviate from the approved religious messages. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #11
Yes, seems some's definition of silly is quit "flexible", if you know what I mean, tradewinds Dec 2014 #23
I'm not so sure about that LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #13
I personally would give him support to do it. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #14
On an unrelated note LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #15
Indeed! you have more courage then I though. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #16
See the title of this thread =D (nt) LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #17
lol! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #19
Speaking of missed opportunities Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #18
It's all bible code my friend! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #20
Confess, now. okasha Dec 2014 #36
Alas someone has figured it all out! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #37
Would you like to know what happened to that atheist who was "decked in the face"? rug Dec 2014 #35
Why would you Say he's "looking to insult people." tradewinds Dec 2014 #30
Your right it is a guess but i think a good one! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #32
This is nothing nichomachus Dec 2014 #2
Wow, there's a lot going on there... AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #5
You don't know that half of it nichomachus Dec 2014 #9
Well, the whole "zombie" thing can help explain the "resurrection" thing. tradewinds Dec 2014 #22
Jason Dixon? Politicalboi Dec 2014 #31
That's unfortunate, Carlos. rug Dec 2014 #34
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
1. Ick! Sounds like he was looking to insult people.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:23 PM
Dec 2014

That is his right and I will defend his right to do it.

The town does have laws but the question is are they enfocing the law fairly.

But this guy is no martyr.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
12. Disagree.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:32 PM
Dec 2014

"A martyr (Greek: ?ά????, mártys, "witness"; stem ?ά????-, mártyr-) is somebody who suffers persecution and/or death for advocating, renouncing, refusing to renounce, and/or refusing to advocate a belief or cause of either a religious or secular nature. Most martyrs are considered holy or are respected by their followers, becoming a symbol of exceptional leadership and heroism. Martyrs play significant roles in religions such as Christianity, Mormonism, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Bahá'í Faith, and Sikhism. Similarly, martyrs have had notable effects in secular life, including specific figures such as Socrates, as well as in politics and Chinese culture."


If he is issued fines by the city where no one else with a similar display is issued fines, singling him out for selective punishment for his beliefs, then he fits the mold.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
21. Given his business,
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:46 PM
Dec 2014

I'd think the pertinent question is whether advertising displays are permissible under his city's zoning ordinances.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
25. According to your OP,
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:09 PM
Dec 2014

the homeowner runs a "haunted attraction" as a business. Since there's no picture at your link, I have no idea what is visible.

It comes down to local ordinances.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
26. Oh, sorry. There were pictures in the Fox News article.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:12 PM
Dec 2014

I was not inclined to link any FOX affiliate. It's a personal thing.

I didn't see any advertising.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
28. It certainly can, but I would have an interest in seeing those ordnances tossed/vacated if they
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:15 PM
Dec 2014

are not enforced fairly.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
29. I'd call it a First Amendment issue unless there's some direct violation.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:17 PM
Dec 2014

It comes down to the principle that bad taste isn't punishable under law unless it does someone demonstrable harm, bodily or financial.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
11. Not when you deviate from the approved religious messages.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:30 PM
Dec 2014

Then it is "being obnoxious" or "silly" or "inappropriate" or whatever bullshit excuse is used to dismiss the 1st amendment issue.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
13. I'm not so sure about that
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:40 PM
Dec 2014

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal] When others do these type of jokes as insults to believers it sometimes ends up with their stuff vandalized or them getting decked in the face.

Maybe it is just the article but it sounds like this man got a lot of support from the community.

I guess, based on the fact that he operates a haunted house type attraction thingy in the town, it was probably expected by many. You wouldn't expect a normal nativity scene at a haunted house would you?

Sounds more like he was keeping the attractions theme while at the same time trying to celebrate the season rather than insult people.

But, I could be wrong. I haven't seen it, nor do I know him, and I am relying on the link for my info. I just don't get the impression that it was meant to offend.
[/font]

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
14. I personally would give him support to do it.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:42 PM
Dec 2014

I woukd also tell him it is disgusting.

I wish him the best.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
15. On an unrelated note
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:43 PM
Dec 2014

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]We missed our chance to Rick Roll this group while getting the host page to 500 posts.

I is sad

We will get them next time!!!
[/font]

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
18. Speaking of missed opportunities
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:47 PM
Dec 2014

I was going to reply to you "I escape once in a while" in the Host thread with :

Wouldn't it be horrible if all 50,000 of your posts were a complex code crying for help? Respond with "I rather enjoy being an Episcopalian" if I'm right.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
36. Confess, now.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:19 PM
Dec 2014

You've discovered lost Templar and Masonic documents that prove that Rick Perry is Ayn
Rand's son by the literal Boyfriend from Hell, and you're hiding from Interpol, the CIA and the bankers of Zurich.

And ZOMG!!! Now that we know, they'll be after the rest of us, too.

 

tradewinds

(260 posts)
30. Why would you Say he's "looking to insult people."
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:22 PM
Dec 2014

To make such an accusation seems a bit harsh. You have know way of knowing what was in this man's mind. You are simply filling in what you do not know with your own biasses.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
2. This is nothing
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:25 PM
Dec 2014


You can't compare it to Kenny Irwin's Robo Lights display here in Palm Springs

http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/robo-lights

Since 1986, Kenny Irwin Jr. has been building the sci-fi holiday spectacle which has turned into a year-round event viewable from the street, although it's during the winter season that Robo Lights really comes to life with millions of lights and public access to the whole celebration.

There's a post-apocalyptic scene with "nuclear elves" in the tennis court, and Santa's sleigh, aka his "battle wagon," is pulled by a team of 12 robotic reindeer, while nearby the wise men come laden with microwaves. One robot stands 50 feet tall, and others have microwaves or other bits of found materials embedded in their chests in this ever-growing alien landscape of outside art.


The kicker is that Kenny is a devout Muslim.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
9. You don't know that half of it
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:29 PM
Dec 2014

It takes up about a half of a block. His family has a huge piece of property. It is an immense display.

 

tradewinds

(260 posts)
22. Well, the whole "zombie" thing can help explain the "resurrection" thing.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 06:21 PM
Dec 2014

Sounds like a thoughtful and entertaining display. Neighbors should embrace this art.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
31. Jason Dixon?
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:23 PM
Dec 2014

Is he related to Darryl? So billboards of aborted fetuses are A Okay anywhere in town, but this offends people. All over something that may or may not have even taken place. Stop pissing on peoples fantasy.

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