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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:29 AM Jan 2015

Duke University reverses decision, cancels weekly Muslim call to prayer

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/01/15/duke-university-reverses-decision-cancels-weekly-muslim-call-to-prayer/

By Susan Svrluga and Michelle Boorstein January 15 at 8:15 PM


People walk by Duke Chapel on the campus of Duke University in Durham, N.C. in 2010. The University had planned to have a Muslim call to prayer on Friday but reversed the decision on Thursday. (Jim R. Bounds/Bloomberg)

Duke University canceled plans Thursday to begin a weekly Muslim call to prayer from the campus chapel this week, an initiative that had set off debate on social media. A school spokesman and a Duke Muslim leader said that a serious and credible security threat played a role in the decision.

The university had announced that Muslim students would chant the ‘adhan,’ the call to a weekly prayer service, from the Duke University Chapel bell tower each Friday. The sound of the call to prayer in Muslim communities is a standard part of ritual life on Muslims’ main prayer day. Theologically, it reminds Muslims “to worship God and serves as a reminder to serve our brothers and sisters in humanity,” Imam Adeel Zeb, Muslim chaplain at Duke, said in a news release.

But reaction to the story off campus was swift. Some celebrated the decision.

But many strongly opposed it.

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Duke University reverses decision, cancels weekly Muslim call to prayer (Original Post) cbayer Jan 2015 OP
The text of the adhan, modified to another faith, Igel Jan 2015 #1
Your post has made me think differently about this, though I still cbayer Jan 2015 #2

Igel

(35,320 posts)
1. The text of the adhan, modified to another faith,
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 12:09 PM
Jan 2015

would not be tolerated in public.

Allah is the greatest, Allah is the greatest.
I bear witness that there is no God but Allah.
I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.
Hasten to worship
Hasten to success.
(Prayer is better than sleep)
Allah is greatest.
There is no God but Allah.


We can quibble that "Allah" just means "god," but then try telling a Muslim that Allah commands keeping the Sabbath, and we worship the Son of Allah.

Or convince a Jew or Xian that Muhammed is the messenger of Jehovah. The distinction is made and clear and only denied when necessary for CYA and PR. Or it's still denied and things get very offensive very quickly.

Let's not even consider Buddhists or other "non-Abrahamic" faiths. And atheists. For them, and others, many schools that had traditional peals Sunday morning cancelled them. And those were just bells. It was a point of liberal or progressive pride, to secularize the space to make it fair for all, regardless of tradition or culture. Now you have to produce your anti-racist street cred by being appropriately biased and defensive. Professional topology theoreticians should study the resulting knots people feel they have to tie themselves up into.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. Your post has made me think differently about this, though I still
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:10 PM
Jan 2015

would advocate for being inclusive.

Your point about religion in the public square is a good one, but it is all over the place for christians. It's so infused into our culture that we don't even notice it. It's on the money, the pledge of allegiance and most political speeches. And they are most definitely talking about the christian god.

In light of that, I think that something like this that really causes no harm should be allowed. Sometimes making it fair for all means giving something to the groups that don't have any notable presence.

I am a strong advocate of separation, but also of inclusion. Sometimes that is a hard line to walk.

FWIW, I have heard these calls in Turkey and found them very moving and profound, even though I had no idea what they were saying.

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