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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:01 PM Mar 2015

Catholic Church can’t win fight it’s picking with S.F.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/nevius/article/Nevius-Catholic-Church-can-t-win-fight-it-s-6124240.php

By C.W. NeviusMarch 9, 2015

Supervisor Mark Farrell tried to be reasonable.

Maybe that’s where he went wrong.

At last week’s Board of Supervisors meeting, Farrell introduced a resolution pretty much to urge San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone to back off on the “morality clauses” he’s got his mind set on for local Catholic school teacher labor contracts and handbooks.

In a carefully worded statement, Farrell noted that he is a practicing Catholic who attended Catholic school. But he also said that he personally could not support the Archdiocese characterizing a list of practices as “gravely evil.” They included “homosexual relations” and “reproductive technology.” Nor, Farrell said, did he support changing the policy at Star of the Sea Church in the Inner Richmond to no longer allow young women to serve as altar girls.

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Catholic Church can’t win fight it’s picking with S.F. (Original Post) cbayer Mar 2015 OP
It all comes back to Sodom and Gomorrah Trillo Mar 2015 #1
What 10 words would you choose? cbayer Mar 2015 #2
"All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance" AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #4
You could replace "Any resemblance" to "So...meh." Goblinmonger Mar 2015 #7
I would toss the whole thing out, maybe have a burning ritual. Trillo Mar 2015 #6
Oh no, you've fallen into her trap. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #8
LMFAO trotsky Mar 2015 #15
Called it. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #16
Burning books! Now there's a new idea, lol. cbayer Mar 2015 #9
"Can't Win"? Goblinmonger Mar 2015 #3
I'm told there's no such thing as religious privilege . AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #5
C'mon, GM, it's like "nuns on the bus" - the Vatican ignored them at their peril! trotsky Mar 2015 #10
They can pass ordinances edhopper Mar 2015 #11
I believe California is an employment at will state Goblinmonger Mar 2015 #12
But could SF edhopper Mar 2015 #13
The Constitution (as interpreted by the Supreme Court, natch) trotsky Mar 2015 #14
True edhopper Mar 2015 #17

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
1. It all comes back to Sodom and Gomorrah
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:08 PM
Mar 2015

Seems like there's a lot of extraneous words and chapters placed around that short story of rioting and raping. Rather misleading. Particularly the New Testament.

They need an editor with a big fat red pen, pare that bible down to about 10 words or less.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
4. "All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance"
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:47 PM
Mar 2015

Sadly, not enough room for "to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental."

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
6. I would toss the whole thing out, maybe have a burning ritual.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:49 PM
Mar 2015

I'm not them. They are obviously out of touch with their own written beliefs, they have loaded too much BS around what really matters to them.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. Burning books! Now there's a new idea, lol.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:00 PM
Mar 2015

Who are "they"?

The article is about a specific and very problematic bishop in San Francisco and how catholics in the area are pushing back against him. "They" seem like some pretty good people that have a pretty good idea of what really matters to them.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
3. "Can't Win"?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:46 PM
Mar 2015

What power does the city have to make them change those policies?

It's a private school. I believe they pretty much get to hire whomever they want and educate however they want. That's the beauty of private schools that several people rallied behind in this very forum. It's why some felt they are better than public schools.

I think Cordileone can pretty much flip Mr. Farrell the bird on this one.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
10. C'mon, GM, it's like "nuns on the bus" - the Vatican ignored them at their peril!
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:01 PM
Mar 2015

Or so we were told.

The nuns left the bus, went quietly back to work, and nothing changed at the Vatican. But there was peril, I tell ya!

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
12. I believe California is an employment at will state
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:49 PM
Mar 2015

They can fire people for any (or no) reason. They are a private institution. Hobby Lobby would also support the actions of the church.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
14. The Constitution (as interpreted by the Supreme Court, natch)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:16 PM
Mar 2015

is the ultimate law of the land. No jurisdiction - state, county, local - can make a law contradicting it.

edhopper

(33,595 posts)
17. True
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 05:00 PM
Mar 2015

but employment discrimination based on sexual orientation is legal. And this decision by the Catholic school is legal in Calif.

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